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Feit is, dat het aandeel voor de zoveelste keer onderaan staat te bungelen. In de loop van de dag krabbelt het meestal wel wat op.
330ix schreef op 31 oktober 2013 09:12 :
Feit is, dat het aandeel voor de zoveelste keer onderaan staat te bungelen.
In de loop van de dag krabbelt het meestal wel wat op.
Inderdaad. Maar verbaas mij er wel over. Of iemand heeft voorkennis uiteraard..
Wanneer vertrekt familie DelPrado??
Meestal zijn deze rare koersfratsen een teken dat er op korte termijn een overnamebod komt. Ik heb dit wel eens bij andere aandelen meegemaakt.
Zoveel er af, zonder eerdere stijgingen en zonder nieuws.
RemcoW1984 schreef op 31 oktober 2013 09:23 :
Zoveel er af, zonder eerdere stijgingen en zonder nieuws.
Dat komt door Besi, daling is te, terwijl ASMI en Besi altijd tegenovergesteld presteren we zullen het zien vannacht.
Overnamebod 330ix?? Vergeet het maar met de DelPrado's aan de knopppen.
Vervelende is dat de koers procentueel flink daalt bij geen nieuws (ja besi)en als de cijfers goed zijn of meevallen hij weer stijgt naar het niveau van vorige week. Ook niks mee opgeschoten dan.
Alweer flink teruggekomen zie ik. Dat verbeterd de startpositie.
RemcoW1984 schreef op 31 oktober 2013 09:46 :
Alweer flink teruggekomen zie ik. Dat verbeterd de startpositie.
Vorig kwartaal was de omzet bij Besi 16,8 % gezakt en bij ASMI was toen de omzet gestegen, dus je ziet je kunt ze niet vergelijken de omzetten van de bedrijven in de US en Azië hebben verbetering laten zien. Het gaat erom of ASMI de verwachtingen heeft verbeterd.
Dat worden geen beste cijfers.
ASML doet het goed vandaag. Had toch ook slechte cijfers naar voren gebracht, dacht ik. Ik hou het op het uitroken van de aandeelhouders van ASMI zodat de boel goedkoop overgenomen wordt. Een typisch overnameverschijnsel.
Twijfel om nog in te stappen voor de cijfers die nabeurs gaan komen. Koers staat zowat op jaarlaag. Als de cijfers ook maar een beetje meevallen dan kan het morgen een leuke dag gaan worden. Goldman Sachs kwam vorige maand nog met een koop advies van 37. Je zou inderdaad bijna denken dat er een bod gaat komen op ASMI.
Is er al een preview beschikbaar?
Heb er 350 gekocht voor de gok.
longshort schreef op 31 oktober 2013 16:22 :
Heb er 350 gekocht voor de gok.
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Yugo_belegger schreef op 31 oktober 2013 23:45 :
bijna tijd.
reken er maar niet op. Paar kwartalen geleden kwamen ze pas om iets voor twee door.. Zie ze denk ik morgen wel..
De resultaten zijn beter dan verwacht : Oct. 31, 2013, 6:59 p.m. EDT ASM INTERNATIONAL N.V. REPORTS THIRD QUARTER 2013 RESULTS Stories You Might Like Apple launches iPad Air as market heats up Google announces Nexus 5 smartphone Giraffes were cash cows before Facebook riddle 0 Comments NEW Watchlist Relevance LEARN MORE (Thomson Reuters ONE via COMTEX) -- Almere, The Netherlands October 31, 2013 ASM International N.V. reports today its third quarter 2013 operating results (unaudited) in accordance with US GAAP. Following the close of the sale on March 15, 2013 of a 12% share in ASMPT, the entity in which the Back-end segment is organized, ASMI's shareholding is reduced to 40.08%. As a consequence, as from March 15, 2013 the results of ASMPT are deconsolidated. From that date onwards the net result of ASMPT is reported on the line 'result from investments'. In the second quarter of 2013 a purchase price allocation took place resulting in the recognition and subsequent amortization of certain intangible assets. FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS The pro-forma figures show ASMI numbers whereby ASMPT is deconsolidated. EUR million Pro-forma Q2 2013 Q3 2013 Q3 2012 New orders 64.3 128.4 112.2 Net sales 96.1 128.6 116.4 Gross profit margin % 31.4 % 39.3 % 39.1 % Operating results (1.6 ) 16.2 11.6 Result from investments (excl. amortization and fair value purchase price allocation) 13.3 9.2 10.8 Remeasurement gain, realized gain on sale of ASMPT shares, amortization and fair value adjustments - (40.8 ) (17.2 ) Net earnings 4.9 (23.4 ) (0.9 ) Normalized net earnings (excl. remeasurement gain, realized gain on sale of ASMPT shares, amortization and fair value adjustments) 4.9 17.4 16.3 - Net sales for the third quarter 2013 decreased with 9% compared to the second quarter and increased with 21% year-on-year, mainly driven by (PE)ALD sales which were subsequently higher than in the comparable period last year, but below the Q2 level. - Result from operations for the third quarter 2013 includes restructuring costs of EUR1.0 million compared to EUR0.7 million included in the second quarter. COMMENT Commenting on the results, Chuck del Prado, President and Chief Executive Officer of ASM International said: "Q3 was again a strong quarter for ASMI. Sales came in 9% lower than the very strong second quarter, slightly better than expected. Our book to bill ratio remained at 1.0. Both sales and order intake were driven by (PE)ALD demand in the most advanced technology nodes. Margins remained healthy, leading to a 10% operating result. We also saw strong improvement in our operational cash flow due to lower working capital requirements for the quarter. Our result from investments excluding 'PPA-effects' improved due to better results in ASMPT". OUTLOOK Our sales in Q4, on a currency comparable level, are expected to show a single digit increase compared to Q3. Q4 order intake, on a currency comparable level, is expected to show a low double digit increase as compared to Q3. About ASM International ASM International NV, headquartered in Almere, the Netherlands, its subsidiaries and participations design and manufacture equipment and materials used to produce semiconductor devices. ASM International, its subsidiaries and participations provide production solutions for wafer processing (Front-end segment) as well as for assembly & packaging and surface mount technology (Back-end segment) through facilities in the United States, Europe, Japan and Asia. ASM International's common stock trades on NASDAQ (symbol ASMI) and the Euronext Amsterdam Stock Exchange (symbol ASM). For more information, visit ASMI's website at www.asm.com. Safe Harbor Statement under the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: All matters discussed in this statement, except for any historical data, are forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. These include, but are not limited to, economic conditions and trends in the semiconductor industry generally and the timing of the industry cycles specifically, currency fluctuations, corporate transactions, financing and liquidity matters, the success of restructurings, the timing of significant orders, market acceptance of new products, competitive factors, litigation involving intellectual property, shareholder and other issues, commercial and economic disruption due to natural disasters, terrorist activity, armed conflict or political instability, epidemics and other risks indicated in the Company's filings from time to time with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, including, but not limited to, the Company's reports on Form 20-F and Form 6-K. The Company assumes no obligation nor intends to update or revise any forward-looking statements to reflect future developments or circumstances. ASM International will host an investor conference call and web cast on Friday, November 1, 2013 at 15:00 Continental European Time (10:00 a.m. - US Eastern Time). The teleconference dial-in numbers are as follows: - United States: +1 212 444 0412 - International: + 44 (0)20 3427 1919 - The Netherlands: + 31 (0)20 716 8295 - Access Code: 9228211
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