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  1. Juun 5 juni 2015 10:27
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    Spoetnik schreef op 5 juni 2015 10:23:

    [...]

    Nou, dan weten we dus ook hoe we de geruchten van Oudgediende moeten waarderen..
    Nou dat weet ik niet. Op hoeveel verkopers past deze sticker:
    "niet gehinderd door enige kennis verkoop ik u deze auto".
    Ze zijn zo verkoop gedreven, dat een leugentje en een belofte snel gemaakt zijn. Dat strijken ze achteraf glad met een korting op winterbanden of een trekhaak en de 6 auto's worden gewoon afgeleverd.
    Ik bedoel maar: Daar moet je Oudgediende niet op aankijken.
  2. Spoetnik 5 juni 2015 10:32
    quote:

    Juun schreef op 5 juni 2015 10:27:

    [...]
    Nou dat weet ik niet. Op hoeveel verkopers past deze sticker:
    "niet gehinderd door enige kennis verkoop ik u deze auto".
    Ze zijn zo verkoop gedreven, dat een leugentje en een belofte snel gemaakt zijn. Dat strijken ze achteraf glad met een korting op winterbanden of een trekhaak en de 6 auto's worden gewoon afgeleverd.
    Ik bedoel maar: Daar moet je Oudgediende niet op aankijken.
    Mijn punt is meer dat ik het wat makkelijk vind om wat dingen te reopen en daar goeie sier mee te willen maken, dan moet dat vroeg of laat natuurlik wel waarheid worden. Kijk, Automaatje heeft zich inmiddels wel bewezen, maar Oudgediende's geruchten heb ik nog nooit bevestigd gezien?
  3. Pacman RTT 5 juni 2015 16:39
    Sorry.. kom net dit tegen op mijn favoriete website.
    Maar gaat over Baidu vs Uber.. en de overeenkomst..
    Check it out..

    Baidu, Wang j: Besides wool in pigs, what Internet?
    Source: 3sNews 2015-06-05 14:29:13
    "Uber has become the world's largest taxi company, but the company does not have a driver or a taxi. Baidu is now China's largest food and beverage companies, we want the future to be the world's largest food and beverage companies. Similarly, we do not have a Cook, not a real restaurant. ”

    Big data Expert Committee of China Vice Chairman, Vice Chairman of China Institute of electronics of cloud computing Expert Committee, Senior Vice President, Baidu, technology strategy Board Chairman Wang j on June 4, the seventh published, entitled the Internet + China cloud computing Conference, innovative race speech.

    Wang j says, "the Internet +" this concept was put forward, Internet companies, is a traditional enterprise penetration and access to the best time, "it is time staking". Traditional industries in China, it is now a study, grasp and embrace the opportunities of the Internet, is self promotion opportunities.

    Referring to causes of Internet +. Wang j, but compared to traditional businesses, Internet companies not only have "wool in pigs make dogs pay" moves, also has some other unique weapons.

    The following excerpts from speeches:

    Wang j: this year's hottest topic discussed cloud computing and data. "The Internet +" is a fusion of industrial, is the fusion of Internet and traditional mainstream industry,

    From the analysis, by 2020 there will still show high growth in four aspects: first, equipment. Still growing at compound annual growth rate of 30% per year, the amount will reach 30 billion level. Second, network traffic, and even 69% a year or so, growing at nearly 70%. Third, humans thousands of years of accumulated data, the current will double every two years. Four and more importantly shows rapid development of Internet technology.

    Internet how to subvert the traditional industry

    I use a few examples with you to explore how Internet companies get into traditional industries.

    1. Uber? Many Internet companies are entering the traditional industry to find a good combination of points and new innovations, community vehicles are included in the operating system. Some time ago there were many taxi software, but more recently Uber grew especially fast, there are three reasons.

    First, he uses the system dispatches, rather than regular driver Rob single mode. Why the system dispatches more than driver Rob? Baidu Uber investment, there are a lot of considerations, did a lot of research. If you are Rob, driver to be ready when there are no guests at all times, and to judge the single to pick up or not. Rob burden on drivers. In addition, by the driver system is no way to make decisions as to reward the driver service as a dispatch, if according to the actual situation with the dispatch system, as well as the usual ride used to decide whether to have a good car, or a lesser car, sent his vehicle and driver that is most suitable to him.

    Second, smart bidding system. Known peak of the Uber price are not the same, why is that? We all know lot prices according to supply and demand decisions, but we have a lot of things are set by the pricing, because traditional methods can't dynamically adjusting prices based on demand, today with the Internet, with this bid system, will be able to bid according to supply and demand.

    Third, real-time scheduling system. According to the forecast. Should be transferred to more traffic near residential areas in the morning, instead of evenly distributed to offices. Today, with the Internet, cloud computing, big data, planned economies started to fulfil its role. A fast computing systems and systems can be, you can do better with planned global optimization, this is Uber big key to success.

    2. Baidu takeout. Takeout is called in the past, Baidu today build very large "Knight team" is riding a bicycle wearing a red vest, thousands of Beijing. Played a role in their scheduled, restaurant to which he should meet a list sent to where his route and time is determined by the system, the system will immediately pushed him. Intelligent dispatch, intelligent path planning. Systems can also be predicted to the restaurant about how long you want to wait, and the system can tell the customer how much time you have to wait.

    Behind the projections is according to data measured by the computer, according to the restaurant, according to distance from the selling source, run schedule what you predict, are much more accurate. With the growth of business, as the volume of data accumulated, will become more and more accurate forecast. Now more and more began to turn to the service. A start for a number of reasons, because Baidu has given a lot of subsidies, you went to the store to eat better than takeout would cost dozens of dollars, boosted consumption growth.

    With the development, we were very happy to find that many restaurants like Baidu internal management system system. Baidu now many systems with a lot of restaurant system, so Baidu takeout can be reality to cook directly on the screen. So what good is it? Baidu systems become more accurate, which cooks we know this form to form, in several of his single row, when dishes can be cooked, we had better feedback, we are able to better schedule our "take-out Knights". It is better service for users and better expectations.

    Be thought a step further, this restaurant will bring the kind of change? Baidu system after system and these restaurants, more and more people through Baidu take-away food systems restaurant seating. When you ordering selected after you when the dish is ready, put on the table, and can be done in the near future. Baidu is China's best search company, is the best Chinese search engine in the world, not to accidentally Baidu would one day become the best catering company in China, which is "Internet +" for Internet business opportunities.

    3. Internet access to education. United States there is a Coursera, he combined course provided free of charge to students, according to their individual needs to make more recommendations, recommendation of the learning process, and could help him with some of his teachers interact, which greatly improves the efficiency of learning. This system helps students to improve their efficiency, access to free educational resources also got what? he knew the student, he knows how this compared to students with other students, what characteristics. So that you can better recommend to the employer, are better suited for this unit students can help students find work more suited to him.
  4. Pacman RTT 5 juni 2015 16:39

    These examples, Internet + for Internet companies has brought so much into the mainstream industry opportunities, greatly improve the efficiency of these mainstream industry. This is the convergence of opportunities, this is the era of convergence, in the traditional mainstream industry and Internet connections for very many opportunities for innovation, who took this kind of innovation, who has a better grasp of this innovation, will be able to grasp the opportunities of the times, this new enterprise and look for new opportunities.

    Internet +, + is the Internet ?

    Internet access to traditional industries, embrace traditional industries of the Internet, "Internet +" has several features:

    First, the planned economy. People with machines, the machine gives dispatch, machines for people to do planning, conducting global optimization. If, in turn, isn't it? Not necessarily. Many traditional people considered "+ Internet", traditional industry + Internet, traditional industry to embrace the Internet, they are still such a model, not the same, it depends on how they innovate.

    We are some latitude from just three examples, both UBER takeout is still Baidu and the Coursera, they do the Internet industry do a thing of the past, past companies such as Baidu, we are connecting people and information, this is the last time. Baidu to see today is connecting people with services, directly connecting people and services, shorter path, high efficiency.

    Baidu has a mass of users, nearly 700 million users in China use Baidu Baidu service, if the serial service 700 million users, whatever the service, if we are in the middle of upgrading the efficiency, Baidu's opportunities will be endless. For the people, to the community and will also get better service.

    Second, the model. You can see the UBER has become the world's largest taxi company, but there is no driver or a taxi. Baidu now has become China's largest food and beverage company, we want to become the world's largest catering company, more than McDonald's and KFC, we do not have a chef without a restaurant, we used four deflected the approach. Coursera is the founder of Baidu, Chief Scientist of the company, without a teacher or any school.

    Internet companies through "Internet +" into the pattern of traditional industries is very light, really used a four-two ounces of access. How does it do that is the key, it relies on technology innovation, it relies on cloud computing, big data. Through the cloud and data accumulated in the past there is no global intelligence, the global capacity for Internet businesses to use new weapons came near the battlefield, so that other people can not resist. Technological innovation is the most important

    What is "Internet +" is "+ Internet"? It is an open question, today we are seeing more and more examples are "Internet +" examples, why? because Internet companies are more early detection and control of Internet-related technologies, from the day of birth of blood flow in the blood of innovation. Many traditional industries are fast catching up, after "+ Internet" will get better and better. We also look forward to the day when "+ Internet" success stories more and more, and "Internet +" neck and neck ", into a balanced system.

    Cloud computing, big data is the Foundation of artificial intelligence

    Internet companies today have mastered what is traditional industries have not mastered? I would like to say a few words on Internet technology, three-stage rocket. First level is cloud computing. Second one is big data. Third is the artificial intelligence.

    After several years of development the cloud matures, Baidu as Asia's most advanced computing Center, a computing bearing capacity of a hundred thousand of servers, the inside is very advanced concepts, a lot is unrivaled in the world. But everyone also to see problem, from Hall came in will see all of company in told, Baidu said Baidu cloud, Ali said aliyun, wave said wave cloud, each a home enterprise are has himself of cloud computing products, cloud computing has not which a enterprise of unique concealed weapon, big data also has opportunities, big data to everyone provides has what things? big data research three a relationship, people of data, and real of data, and relationship of data, relationship including people and people, and real and real, and people and real of relationship.

    Cloud computing, big data provide a foundation of artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence is not a new concept, has more than 10-20 years with all this talk about artificial intelligence, today, finally to the outbreak stage, because capacity has been greatly improved, as we talk about big data and network transmission rates are a very uplifted, was finally able to let us set of cloud computing and artificial intelligence of data making global decisions.

    Today you see here is just tip of the iceberg of artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence to be able to change very much for us in the future. Together we can forecast, transportation system of the future will be a lot of intelligence, will be replaced by artificial intelligence system today traffic intelligence systems, vehicles and transportation systems in the future communication will be seamless, all running cars will be controlled by a transport system, after car is automatic, it's a prospect.

    Finally, I would like to say that the traditional industry to succeed, wants to embrace the Internet, want to put Internet "+" to "+ Internet", they need to embrace the Internet culture, and ultimately, this culture is the culture of innovation. Baidu innovation culture and traditional industries are not the same. In General, the Internet "+" or "+ Internet", the core is innovation, the industry as a whole, society as a whole has gone to a barrier, became the most important success factors of innovation. Thank you very much!
  5. Pacman RTT 5 juni 2015 16:53
    Sorry voor de load aan lees werk. :)

    HERE and TomTom are both complete United States high accuracy of automatic driving road test area map
    Source: 3sNews 2015-06-05 12:09:37
    This week, navigation and Nokia maps service provider HERE and TomTom have announced already in the United States completed a self-driving car high accuracy of the test road map.

    TomTom is complete United States high-precision map near Detroit, Michigan, between Ann Arbor and cover from Farmington Hills Road network, including Interstate No. 696, 96th and No. 275, 23rd and 14th national highway road, State Highway. At the beginning of this year during the CES2015, TomTom has automatically driving for Audi A7 concept car provides high-precision maps, helping it completed the long journey from San Francisco to Las Vegas, mileage over 560 miles.

    Detroit is known as the "Motor City", is the North American auto industry "heart". Although Detroit's past glory is no longer, but by the Michigan coalition of business leaders and politicians, MICHauto a recent initiative to promote research and development, including the self-driving cars of Detroit and Michigan next generation projects, and hopes to compete in this area and Silicon Valley. According to MICHauto data, 2014 interconnection project, Michigan ranks first in the United States, reaching 45; only 31 in California.

    HERE?TomTom

    Michigan United States the fourth State to allow self-driving cars for road testing

    In fact, Michigan as early as December 2013 by allowing the State Bill of self-driving cars on a road test, became United States following California, Florida and Nevada, after, the fourth State to ratify the self-driving car road tests.

    United States Virginia recently to automatically provide more than 70 miles of highway driving test, was named "self-driving car corridor" (Virginia Automated Corridors). Nokia has done HERE is high-precision map of this corridor.

    HERE?TomTom

    Virginia has opened more than 70 miles of "automatic driving vehicle corridors"

    Nokia HERE and the Virginia Tech transportation Institute, Virginia DMV toll-road operator Transurban, Virginia Department of transportation, as well as cooperation, providing real-time road information for self-driving cars, so that cars can identify traffic marking location.

    According to reports, the corridor of road covered by the highways, highways and urban roads, 66th, 95th and intercontinental Highway No. 495, 29th and 50th national highways are included in the scope of corridor, which will pass through several of North America's most congested routes.

    Nokia HERE explained that these carefully chosen road "stands for United States drivers and traffic conditions", so you can more fully automatic driving test? di Fang Kuang Huang but cable yellow ? fat-Cheng Lu Ke Yue JI a ? flexible?/p>

    [Editor: Zhang Kai]
  6. [verwijderd] 5 juni 2015 17:49
    Pacman, veel waardering voor het spitwerk dat je verricht. Een korte samenvatting van essentiële punten kan mensen helpen om te besluiten of ze zich door het hele verhaal gaan worstelen of niet. Als je die moeite zou willen doen (jij hebt het zelf waarschijnlijk wel helemaal gelezen), heel erg bedankt.
  7. Pacman RTT 5 juni 2015 18:37
    Jullie hebben helemaal gelijk hoor. Ik had deze reactie ook wel verwacht.

    Ik was op het werk en had weinig tijd om het zelf door te nemen.
    - Uber vs Baidu leek mij wel interessante info. Here vs TomTom info vanuit Chinees oogpunt ook wel.
    - Eigenlijk dus door gebrek aan tijd gepost.

    Sorry.. no sweat ! :)

    Ter info..
    Probleem met deze source (3sNews) is dat het Chinees is en dus vertaald moet worden.
    Ik gebruik Safari (met een Plug-In extensie Translate) dat de vertaling automatisch doet. Erg handig !!
    Een Chinees URL posten lijkt mij ook niet handig.. Vandaar dus..
  8. [verwijderd] 5 juni 2015 22:20
    Wiesje op SA:

    Als reactie op het artikel: seekingalpha.com/article/3237006-noki...

    wiesje
    just hear-say, but there is some rumor ( unconfirmed , as usual ) that some of the large Scandinavian Institutional Holders of Nokia would like the Board to opt for keeping a minority in Here and as such would give preference to the German consortium, this also being the reason TT is getting dumped on in Amsterdam.

    I am contemplating taking some NOK stock

    any thoughts ?
  9. [verwijderd] 5 juni 2015 22:32
    quote:

    Hik schreef op 5 juni 2015 22:20:

    Wiesje op SA:

    Als reactie op het artikel: seekingalpha.com/article/3237006-noki...

    wiesje
    just hear-say, but there is some rumor ( unconfirmed , as usual ) that some of the large Scandinavian Institutional Holders of Nokia would like the Board to opt for keeping a minority in Here and as such would give preference to the German consortium, this also being the reason TT is getting dumped on in Amsterdam.

    I am contemplating taking some NOK stock

    any thoughts ?

    Dat verklaart een hoop, waaroma de koers van tomtom zo omlaag ging.....maar goed, is alleen (als het op waarheid berust ) op korte termijn even wat minder voor de koers...op lange termijn komt het zeker goed. ...

  10. Eduard de Wit 5 juni 2015 22:40
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    Girakian2 schreef op 5 juni 2015 22:32:

    [...]

    Dat verklaart een hoop, waaroma de koers van tomtom zo omlaag ging.....maar goed, is alleen (als het op waarheid berust ) op korte termijn even wat minder voor de koers...op lange termijn komt het zeker goed. ...

    Niets is nog zoals het lijkt.

    Als Here verkocht kan worden aan Microsoft voor een miljard meer, pissen de Duitsers gewoon achter het net
  11. [verwijderd] 5 juni 2015 22:51
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    Eduard de Wit schreef op 5 juni 2015 22:40:

    [...]
    Niets is nog zoals het lijkt.

    Als Here verkocht kan worden aan Microsoft voor een miljard meer, pissen de Duitsers gewoon achter het net
    Het lijkt er op dat Nokia nog een minderheidsaandeel wil houden en HERE niet in de uitverkoop wil gooien tegen de hoogste prijs. Naar wat ik er uit opmaak is dat ze het aan het consortium 'gunnen'. Het geld hebben ze niet echt nodig. Als het echt het consortium alleen is, dan komen we eerder bij de €2.1 miljard uit dan bij de veel hogere bedragen die de revue gepasseerd zijn. Er speelt kennelijk ook nog iets van eergevoel, spijt/onvermogen dat ze het zelf niet naar een hoger plan hebben kunnen tillen?
  12. Eduard de Wit 5 juni 2015 22:57
    quote:

    Hik schreef op 5 juni 2015 22:51:

    [...]

    Het lijkt er op dat Nokia nog een minderheidsaandeel wil houden en HERE niet in de uitverkoop wil gooien tegen de hoogste prijs. Naar wat ik er uit opmaak is dat ze het aan het consortium 'gunnen'. Het geld hebben ze niet echt nodig. Als het echt het consortium alleen is, dan komen we eerder bij de €2.1 miljard uit dan bij de veel hogere bedragen die de revue gepasseerd zijn. Er speelt kennelijk ook nog iets van eergevoel, spijt/onvermogen dat ze het zelf niet naar een hoger plan hebben kunnen tillen?
    Echt onzin.
    Nokia geeft geen gratis geld weg, dat doet niemand.
    Business is business!

    Zomaar 1 of 2 miljard laten liggen?
    No way
  13. [verwijderd] 5 juni 2015 23:01
    quote:

    Eduard de Wit schreef op 5 juni 2015 22:57:

    [...]

    Echt onzin.
    Nokia geeft geen gratis geld weg, dat doet niemand.
    Business is business!

    Zomaar 1 of 2 miljard laten liggen?
    No way
    In ieder geval is het een mogelijke verklaring voor de onbegrijpelijke daling vandaag en eigenlijk al vanaf vorige week vrijdag. Er was inmiddels al genoeg lucht uit het aandeel gelopen om het niet te hoog geprijsd te laten zijn. En de shorters daar geloof ik ff nog niet in.
    Ik zie wel wat in deze theorie, maar of het ons als TT-ers in de kaart speelt....
  14. Spoetnik 5 juni 2015 23:10
    quote:

    Hik schreef op 5 juni 2015 23:01:

    [...]

    In ieder geval is het een mogelijke verklaring voor de onbegrijpelijke daling vandaag en eigenlijk al vanaf vorige week vrijdag. Er was inmiddels al genoeg lucht uit het aandeel gelopen om het niet te hoog geprijsd te laten zijn. En de shorters daar geloof ik ff nog niet in.
    Ik zie wel wat in deze theorie, maar of het ons als TT-ers in de kaart speelt....
    TT is momenteel het makkelijkste aandeel om geld mee te verdienen.
    Er zitten een hoop mensen die zijn afgekomen op speculatie, en zo lang er geen nieuws is, druk je die er zo weer uit door het aandeel te dumpen. Je creëert een angstbeeld, "zal er dan slecht nieuws op komst zijn"..?
    Ik kan er natuurlijk naast zitten, maar ik geloof niet dat het iets met de verkoop van Here te maken heeft.
    Eergevoel my ass, in the end it's all about the Benjamins..
  15. Eduard de Wit 5 juni 2015 23:13
    quote:

    Spoetnik schreef op 5 juni 2015 23:10:

    [...]

    TT is momenteel het makkelijkste aandeel om geld mee te verdienen.
    Er zitten een hoop mensen die zijn afgekomen op speculatie, en zo lang er geen nieuws is, druk je die er zo weer uit door het aandeel te dumpen. Je creëert een angstbeeld, "zal er dan slecht nieuws op komst zijn"..?
    Ik kan er natuurlijk naast zitten, maar ik geloof niet dat het iets met de verkoop van Here te maken heeft.
    Eergevoel my ass, in the end it's all about the Benjamins..
    100 % eens
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