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  1. [verwijderd] 11 januari 2018 22:41
    quote:

    Jonge_belegger schreef op 11 januari 2018 22:29:

    [...]
    Dat zei men gisteren ook hier na sluiten USA. Resultaat vandaag: ALTICE NV -7%, ATUS +1,5%. Zinloze vergelijkingen.
    Ja , en heb gelijk geleerd van me fouten, heb realtime stream ta, vanmiddag mee aan het knutselen geweest, met alle parameters instellem, op 4 uurs en 5 uurs koers.
    Er gaat een wereld voor je open, bij mij dan:)

  2. forum rang 4 moneypocket 11 januari 2018 22:50
    quote:

    J v Ho schreef op 11 januari 2018 22:41:

    [...]Ja , en heb gelijk geleerd van me fouten, heb realtime stream ta, vanmiddag mee aan het knutselen geweest, met alle parameters instellem, op 4 uurs en 5 uurs koers.
    Er gaat een wereld voor je open, bij mij dan:)

    Beste J v Ho,

    Dat zijn geen fouten hoor! Menig belegger heeft niet zien aankomen dat koste wat het kost de koers het ravijn in moest worden geschopt na de flinke koersstijging afgelopen dinsdag.
    Ik lees o.a. dat men niet bezig is om de schuld te verminderen. Hoezo? Ik dacht toch werkelijk dat uit de Altice toren melding werd gemaakt dat men bezig is om de zendmasten in Frankrijk te verkopen. Daarnaast verkoop Dominicaanse Republiek. Tja..wat willen de analisten dan horen? Jawel..dat de Q4 resultaten flink lager uitvallen dan was verwacht. Punt.

    Natuurlijk blijft de schuldenlast een belangrijk item, maar de methodieken die nu worden gehanteerd om de koers te kunnen laten dalen zijn niet reeel.
    Dat er in de toekomst een eventuele emissie zal plaatsvinden sluit ik niet uit, maar dat bovenstaande argumenten slaan kant nog wal.
    We zullen zien wat er morgen uit de koker komt...

  3. [verwijderd] 11 januari 2018 22:58
    quote:

    Jonge_belegger schreef op 11 januari 2018 22:13:

    [...]
    Dat zou weer -6% betekenen. Ik mag toch hopen dat het morgen beperkt blijft cq. enig herstel plaatsvindt.
    Ik ben met nog weinig stukjes long, met de helft van de stukje reeds winst verzilverd. Meer up gaan van Altice betekent voor mij ook meer winst. Met reactie bedoelde ik, ben niet vies van om tegen belachelijk lage koers weer/bij te kopen.
  4. YR/YR 11 januari 2018 23:00
    Cablevision and Suddenlink are coming to the rescue of their parent company Altice in a deal that will transfer $1.5 billion from the two American cable operators to help bail out its struggling European operation, according to the Wall Street Journal.

    Founding shareholder Patrick Drahi is splitting his U.S. cable operations away from Altice NV, spinning them off into a new publicly traded company known as Altice USA. But Drahi has also ordered the new U.S. company to pay a one time $1.5 billion dividend, most of which will end up in the bank account of Altice NV to help the parent company reduce its leveraged debts that have been largely responsible for its falling stock price.

    While Cablevision and Suddenlink customers can look forward to additional rate increases, shareholders of Altice USA are being enticed to invest with sweeteners including an unexpected dividend payout and a sudden decision by Drahi to forego his usual management fee charged to companies he acquires to acquaint them with the “Altice Way” of doing business. That fee can amount to an initial $30 million payment plus an ongoing percentage (usually 2-3%) of a Drahi-acquired company’s future revenue.

    Altice USA believes it can afford the bailout thanks to President Donald Trump’s tax cuts. In addition to using $2 billion of anticipated savings to pay for share buybacks, Altice USA hopes to quickly recoup an additional $1.5 billion from reduced taxes and revenue increases it will earn from customer rate hikes and new broadband customers.

    Altice NV, soon to be renamed Altice Europe, was a veritable disaster financially — called the “worst large-cap performer in Europe” in 2017. At the center of Altice’s European operations remains the dismally performing SFR-Numericable, the French wireless and cable company. After Drahi acquired the company, he slashed costs and investments and threatened to lay off one-third of its workforce. Service deteriorated and customers canceled in droves. Investors starting selling their Altice shares around Halloween of 2017, after watching Mr. Drahi pile on unprecedented debt and become convinced Drahi’s highly leveraged company could not succeed.

    The Wall Street Journal cautioned potential investors in Altice USA that the new venture will gladly take your money, but give shareholders almost no say in how it will be governed. Drahi has engineered his continued dominance of the new entity with control of at least 51% of voting rights.

    Wall Street analysts are largely positive about the deal, noting Altice USA won’t be attached to Altice’s European money troubles and the company will have the ability to extract revenue from its customers with ongoing rate increases.
  5. [verwijderd] 11 januari 2018 23:23
    quote:

    J v Ho schreef op 11 januari 2018 23:22:

    Weet ik ook nie, maar vanaf de 7 euro worden ze alleen maar duurder, en als je van de 17 euro naar de 12 euro valt, valt die 15% afgelopen dagen wel, belachelijk gewoon.
    Maar ga nie die aandelen niet meer de lucht in lullen, wacht wel tot de spinoff.
    ging iets fout
  6. [verwijderd] 11 januari 2018 23:25
    Restwaarde voor het aandeel Altice NV, op basis van de nabeurs slotstanden voor ATUS en ATC ;

    € 1,0325.

    slotkoers ATUS : $ 23,13.
    EUR / USD : 1,2034.
    slotkoers ATUS in € : 19,22.
    ruilverhouding : 0,4163.
    ruilwaarde ATUS : € 8,001.

    Slotkoers ATC : € 9,034.

    Restwaarde = slotkoers ATC -/- ATUS ruilwaarde : 9,034 -/- 8,001 = € 1,03.

    In grafiek :

  7. forum rang 4 moneypocket 11 januari 2018 23:27
    quote:

    ff_relativeren schreef op 11 januari 2018 23:25:

    Restwaarde voor het aandeel Altice NV, op basis van de nabeurs slotstanden voor ATUS en ATC ;

    € 1,0325.

    slotkoers ATUS : $ 23,13.
    EUR / USD : 1,2034.
    slotkoers ATUS in € : 19,22.
    ruilverhouding : 0,4163.
    ruilwaarde ATUS : € 8,001.

    Slotkoers ATC : € 9,034.

    Restwaarde = slotkoers ATC -/- ATUS ruilwaarde : 9,034 -/- 8,001 = € 1,03.

    In grafiek :

    Bedankt ff_relativeren; tja..waar gaat het nu eigenlijk over...Altice NV nu gewaardeerd op iets meer dan 10 duppies... Nog even en het wordt het penny stock!
  8. YR/YR 11 januari 2018 23:31

    Altice USA Embraces Home-Alone Strategy
    Alan Breznick
    NEWS ANALYSIS
    ALAN BREZNICK, Cable/Video Practice Leader, Light Reading
    1/11/2018
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    Maybe Altice USA should just change its name, jettisoning the Altice brand altogether.

    In a fervent bid to free itself from the debt woes plaguing its European parent, Altice USA is doing almost everything else it can to separate from its big daddy right now. As reported earlier this week, the US unit plans to spin off from the larger Altice conglomerate in the second quarter and stand (almost) entirely on its own in the big, bad world.

    Fresh off its $2.2 billion IPO last summer, Altice USA aims to assert its new independence in a multitude of ways. Among other things, it intends to create its own dedicated management team and ownership structure, report its full earnings separately, lavish a $1.5 billion cash dividend on shareholders immediately before the spin-off this spring, buy back $2 billion in shares after the completion of the separation and reduce its leverage to 4.5 to 5.0 times net debt to earnings. (See Altice Spins Off US Biz, Rejigs in Europe and Altice Shifts From M&A to European Recovery.)

    "It will lead to a complete separation of the two companies," said Altice USA Dexter Goei, speaking on a conference call with analysts and reporters to explain the corporate restructuring late Monday. "It will significantly simplify the way each company operates." In addition to Goei, who will continue to lead the US company while shedding his other role as CEO of the parent company, the dedicated Altice USA management team will consist of: Armando Pereira, special adviser for all operations; Hakim Boubazine, co-president and COO; and Charlie Stewart, co-president and CFO.

    Altice USA will not be completely independent, however. Despite the spin-off of parent Altice's 67.2% interest in the US company, Altice founder Patrick Drahi will remain in charge of the company as controlling shareholder and chairman of the board. His stock holdings of the US company, though, will slightly decrease.

    In another key move, Altice USA will take over the relatively new Altice Technical Services (ATS) unit, which the parent company created late last year to house all of the US field service, construction and fiber, design, outside plant maintenance, inside plant and field-based employees serving commercial accounts. But Goei stressed that he plans to keep that unit as a separate, third-party provider of services to Altice USA. "It will be run as if a separate business today," he said.

    Altice USA -- which became the fourth-largest MSO in the US with 4.9 million customers through its recent purchases of Cable Systems and Suddenlink Communications -- will also give up its ambitions to grow through more acquisitions, at least temporarily. With its new focus on reducing debt and its continued emphasis on boosting operational efficiencies, the company has no plans to pursue other US cable operators in the near future.

    "We continue to be long-term ambitious," Goei said. But for now, he said, the company will "focus on delivering best-in-class returns" on its cable operations. "We have a lot going on internally that we don't want to take our eye off the ball."

    Get your strategic roadmap to the technology trends and business cases shaping the cable industry! Join us for the Cable Next-Gen Technologies & Strategies event in Denver on March 20-22. Don't miss this exclusive opportunity to network with and learn from industry experts – communications service providers get in free!
    What won't change for Altice USA is its core strategy of building fiber-to-the-home (FTTH) networks throughout the former Cablevision and Suddenlink footprints. Under that strategy, the MSO plans to extend fiber lines to nearly all of its 8.5 homes passed over the next few years. With more than 150,000 homes now passed by all-fiber networks, the company aims to boost this total to 1 million households by the end of this year.

    Altice USA will also continue to roll out its new home communications hub, Altice One, throughout its regions. Plans call for deploying the hub, which was unveiled last fall, across the MSO's entire US footprint by the end of this year. (See Altice USA Plows Ahead With Hubs & Fiber.)

    Finally, Altice USA will proceed with its intention to introduce its own cellular service. Following in the footsteps of Comcast and Charter, which have mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) deals with Verizon, Altice USA signed a deal with Sprint that will give the cableco full access to the cellular company's mobile network. Plans call for launching that wireless service in the second half of the year. (See Altice & Sprint Ink MVNO Deal.)

    "There's no change whatsoever in our business strategy," Goei said. "There are no changes whatsoever to how we operate today."

    Now the question is how much will investors be impressed. So far, things are looking up for the company In late trading Thursday, Altice USA's share price stood just below $23, up from just over $21 when the spin-off plans were announced late Monday.
  9. [verwijderd] 11 januari 2018 23:35
    quote:

    moneypocket schreef op 11 januari 2018 23:27:

    [...]

    Bedankt ff_relativeren; tja..waar gaat het nu eigenlijk over...Altice NV nu gewaardeerd op iets meer dan 10 duppies...

    @ moneypocket,

    ik vermoed dat we heel dicht bij 1 van de clausules zijn gekomen uit het persbericht.
    En dan bedoel ik de bepaling dat de directie zich het recht voorbehoudt,
    om de aandelencompensatie (in ATUS aandelen) op enig moment te vertragen, te verlagen (of zelfs geheel te herzien).

    een verlaging van de ruilverhouding (nu 0,4163) betekent minder ATUS aandelen na de splitsing. het betekent ook in de rekensom dat de restwaarde van het aandeel Altice NV daardoor omhoog gaat ..

    zeg maar : de trukendoos wordt nog eens extra open getrokken.
    (ATC -/- minder ATUS = hogere restwaarde)


    Zodra de restwaarde voor Altice NV een pennystock wordt, zou deze truuk-oplossing wel eens in beeld kunnen komen. En dat heeft natuurlijk ook een keerzijde voor degenen die zich nu nog rijk rekenen ; de zittenblijvers zouden dan minder gecompenseerd worden voor de splitsing ...

  10. [verwijderd] 11 januari 2018 23:35
    quote:

    YR/YR schreef op 11 januari 2018 23:31:

    Altice USA Embraces Home-Alone Strategy
    Alan Breznick
    NEWS ANALYSIS
    ALAN BREZNICK, Cable/Video Practice Leader, Light Reading
    1/11/2018
    COMMENT (0)
    Login

    50%

    50%

    inShare

    Maybe Altice USA should just change its name, jettisoning the Altice brand altogether.

    In a fervent bid to free itself from the debt woes plaguing its European parent, Altice USA is doing almost everything else it can to separate from its big daddy right now. As reported earlier this week, the US unit plans to spin off from the larger Altice conglomerate in the second quarter and stand (almost) entirely on its own in the big, bad world.

    Fresh off its $2.2 billion IPO last summer, Altice USA aims to assert its new independence in a multitude of ways. Among other things, it intends to create its own dedicated management team and ownership structure, report its full earnings separately, lavish a $1.5 billion cash dividend on shareholders immediately before the spin-off this spring, buy back $2 billion in shares after the completion of the separation and reduce its leverage to 4.5 to 5.0 times net debt to earnings. (See Altice Spins Off US Biz, Rejigs in Europe and Altice Shifts From M&A to European Recovery.)

    "It will lead to a complete separation of the two companies," said Altice USA Dexter Goei, speaking on a conference call with analysts and reporters to explain the corporate restructuring late Monday. "It will significantly simplify the way each company operates." In addition to Goei, who will continue to lead the US company while shedding his other role as CEO of the parent company, the dedicated Altice USA management team will consist of: Armando Pereira, special adviser for all operations; Hakim Boubazine, co-president and COO; and Charlie Stewart, co-president and CFO.

    Altice USA will not be completely independent, however. Despite the spin-off of parent Altice's 67.2% interest in the US company, Altice founder Patrick Drahi will remain in charge of the company as controlling shareholder and chairman of the board. His stock holdings of the US company, though, will slightly decrease.

    In another key move, Altice USA will take over the relatively new Altice Technical Services (ATS) unit, which the parent company created late last year to house all of the US field service, construction and fiber, design, outside plant maintenance, inside plant and field-based employees serving commercial accounts. But Goei stressed that he plans to keep that unit as a separate, third-party provider of services to Altice USA. "It will be run as if a separate business today," he said.

    Altice USA -- which became the fourth-largest MSO in the US with 4.9 million customers through its recent purchases of Cable Systems and Suddenlink Communications -- will also give up its ambitions to grow through more acquisitions, at least temporarily. With its new focus on reducing debt and its continued emphasis on boosting operational efficiencies, the company has no plans to pursue other US cable operators in the near future.

    "We continue to be long-term ambitious," Goei said. But for now, he said, the company will "focus on delivering best-in-class returns" on its cable operations. "We have a lot going on internally that we don't want to take our eye off the ball."

    Get your strategic roadmap to the technology trends and business cases shaping the cable industry! Join us for the Cable Next-Gen Technologies & Strategies event in Denver on March 20-22. Don't miss this exclusive opportunity to network with and learn from industry experts – communications service providers get in free!
    What won't change for Altice USA is its core strategy of building fiber-to-the-home (FTTH) networks throughout the former Cablevision and Suddenlink footprints. Under that strategy, the MSO plans to extend fiber lines to nearly all of its 8.5 homes passed over the next few years. With more than 150,000 homes now passed by all-fiber networks, the company aims to boost this total to 1 million households by the end of this year.

    Altice USA will also continue to roll out its new home communications hub, Altice One, throughout its regions. Plans call for deploying the hub, which was unveiled last fall, across the MSO's entire US footprint by the end of this year. (See Altice USA Plows Ahead With Hubs & Fiber.)

    Finally, Altice USA will proceed with its intention to introduce its own cellular service. Following in the footsteps of Comcast and Charter, which have mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) deals with Verizon, Altice USA signed a deal with Sprint that will give the cableco full access to the cellular company's mobile network. Plans call for launching that wireless service in the second half of the year. (See Altice & Sprint Ink MVNO Deal.)

    "There's no change whatsoever in our business strategy," Goei said. "There are no changes whatsoever to how we operate today."

    Now the question is how much will investors be impressed. So far, things are looking up for the company In late trading Thursday, Altice USA's share price stood just below $23, up from just over $21 when the spin-off plans were announced late Monday.
    Grappige is, altice heeft 51 miljard schuld, nu na splitsing is er 20 miljard weg, die zitte dus bij de usa lijkt mij.
    Weet je gewoon ta.
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