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  4. [verwijderd] 15 december 2011 23:32
    quote:

    egeltjemetstekel schreef op 15 december 2011 22:41:

    1 euro lijkt me wat hoog gegrepen zolang dezeonderneming niks produceert behalve schulden!!!
    maar ik begrijp je wel bloemanjer
    de wens is nu eenmaal de vader van de gedachte!!!
    Joh, die ene euro is symbolisch, dat hoeft het niet echt waard te zijn, is meer dat er een prijsje aan hangt. Maar formeel heb je natuurlijk gelijk en is 1 euro duur voor zo'n grote berg schulden.
  6. egeltjemetstekel 15 december 2011 23:44
    en inderdaad... ik zat net ff te zoeken naar nieuws..
    maar niks gevonden
    dus geen nieuws= geen verandering van de situatie en dus niet van mijn mening over dit fonds!
    we kunnen dus van alles tegen elkaar zeggen
    hier op het forum
    maar zolang er geen nieuws is
    verandert er toch niks
    laten we maar gewoon maandag afwachten goed???
  7. bart1805 15 december 2011 23:47
    quote:

    egeltjemetstekel schreef op 15 december 2011 23:44:

    en inderdaad... ik zat net ff te zoeken naar nieuws..
    maar niks gevonden
    dus geen nieuws= geen verandering van de situatie en dus niet van mijn mening over dit fonds!
    we kunnen dus van alles tegen elkaar zeggen
    hier op het forum
    maar zolang er geen nieuws is
    verandert er toch niks
    laten we maar gewoon maandag afwachten goed???
    Niets te melden inderdaad. Filmtitels al gehad, vandaag thema songs?

    Saab, Kindje, Saab.
  8. [verwijderd] 15 december 2011 23:53
    quote:

    egeltjemetstekel schreef op 15 december 2011 22:41:

    1 euro lijkt me wat hoog gegrepen zolang dezeonderneming niks produceert behalve schulden!!!
    maar ik begrijp je wel bloemanjer
    de wens is nu eenmaal de vader van de gedachte!!!
    Volgens mij was het de wens is de moeder van de gedachte, mijn moeder vindt het prima hoor. Go SAAB go met die Aero.Suk6 Victor, bij SAAB begint de Victor(y)! Ach, tis al laat.
  10. bart1805 15 december 2011 23:57
    quote:

    egeltjemetstekel schreef op 15 december 2011 23:55:

    de curator liep te wachten...
    hij had net wat saabjes geteld...
    daar hoorde hij victor mooi zingen...
    dat liedje dat ging over geld...

    de deurwaarder begon al te dringen...
    en de vakbonden waren zo boos...
    toen zij naar trolhattan gingen,
    zei victor wat is er loos?
    lol!
    Applaus, Bis, Bis, Bis!
  14. egeltjemetstekel 16 december 2011 00:10
    ik vind er niks over maar wel iets over het miljoenen loon van lofalk

    gt.expressen.se/nyheter/1.2653432/har...

    Guy Lofalk. Photo: Wissing
    Harsh criticism against his superlön
    Guy Lofalk miljonlön galling to the Saab employees.
    According to TV4 News, he has served the full 51 million on the mission.
    - I think you should get paid for performance and if so, it is well he will pay us, says Fredrik Almqvist, Saab employee to TV4.



    The employees at Saab are still waiting for his former salary - but the lawyer Guy Lofalk has not been poor in working with Saab's two reconstructions.
    According to TV4, he earned as much as 51 million before he resigned from the mission.
    - We have not had insight into all things Lofalk done, but we understand that he has done his job properly. And that's only to realize that it costs a lot of money, says Martin Wästfeldt, general counsel for the union Union to Expressen.se.
    "Borrowers do not have the same opportunity"
    41 million was Lofalk firm when he carried out the first Saab's reorganization 2009th In the latest restructuring, he had also received 10 million in advance.
    - It is no wonder that he has seen on his house. But you may find that an employee does not have the same opportunity to say: I require advance otherwise the work not me, says Martin Wästfeldt.
    Guy Lofalk miljonlön has stuck in the eyes of the employees at Saab are still waiting for their novemberlön.
    - I think you should get paid for performance and if so, it is well he will pay us, says Fredrik Almqvist, Saab employee to TV4.
    By Erik Hogstrom
    erik.hogstrom @
    expressen.se Of Eva Rogstad
    eva.rogsten @
    gt.se
  20. greenspanalan 16 december 2011 08:51

    Our Daily Saab: A New Administrator, A New Deal, Same Old, Same Old
    By Edward Niedermeyer on December 15, 2011

    After enduring a rocky relationship with Saab’s management, Guy Lofalk is officially out as court-appointed administrator for the ailing Swedish brand. But although Saab boss Victor Muller had long hoped for Lofalk’s ouster, the news wasn’t all good for his slow-motion “rescue,” as Lofalk’s first replacement had to step down before he even began his duties. Reuters calls the abortive administratorship of Lars-Henrik Andersson  Saab’s “latest embarrassment,”  but TTELA reports that Andersson’s “defection [was] not based on a pessimistic assessment of Saab.” On the other hand, at least one of Andersson’s colleagues thinks he dropped out because Saab is “screwed.”

    In any case Soderqvist seems to be the last remaining Saabtimist in Sweden, insisting he believes in the new plan to save the zombie brand, and he will serve as long as he continues to have faith… so what’s the new plan anyway?

    JustAuto reports that

    European supplier body CLEPA estimates up to EUR700m (US$910m) could be made available for beleaguered Saab to restart production, if plans by Chinese manufacturer Youngman and an unnamed Chinese investor bear fruit.

    “That means [they - Youngman] will provide EUR200m and a financial investor will provide EUR500m – that will be enough to restart and give Saab a chance,” said [CLEPA CEO Lars] Holmqvist. “Youngman has already spent a lot of money, if nothing else to protect the investment they have already made.”

    And where, pray tell, does this faith come from, that a Chinese bus manufacturer and an unnamed “financial investor” is ready to drop nearly a billion dollars on the auto industry’s most notoriously undead brand?

    The CLEPA boss also revealed this week’s mood had swung from one of gloom to hope following his receipt of a bank statement indicating Chinese manufacturer Youngman had paid Saab EUR3.4m, believed to have covered overdue Swedish government taxes.

    The supplier chief also detailed how Muller had been urged to declare bankruptcy in a bid to avoid any personal liabilities, but had resisted, a move Holmqvist endorsed.

    “We have been up and down listening to Victor Muller,” he said. “On Friday I was quite pessimistic and on Friday night he [Muller] sent a copy of the statement slip that the money had been sent by Youngman.

    “Then, on Monday, he was pressed by people around him to file for bankruptcy. They were afraid they would be personally responsible for debts. But he refused and he was right because the money arrived and he got a respite again. Another rabbit hopped up from the hat – I knew what was going on, but I did not think it was going to be in time.”

    Where to start with this? How about the fact that €3.4m is hardly an indication that almost a billion bucks is forthcoming.. especially given the difficulties of transfering money from China? Or what about the fact that the transfer in question was for a transaction that Lofalk considered “a new obligation” (forbidden during reorganization), an accusation that was met with a claim that it was part of an earlier deal and intended for salaries, not taxes? The unknown identity of the “investors” willing to drop €500m on Saab? The fact that these investors, not Youngman, will control the brand (in order to keep GM happy)? The fact that US dealerships aren’t selling the cars they have, making a production restart largely pointless? In any case Holmqvist admits that his group stands to lose “a lot of money” if Saab goes bankrupt and is willing to back any plan (reality, it seems, notwithstanding).

    The 16th was supposed to be the day that decided Saab’s fate, but the brand has been given another weekend to get the mysterious Chinese money into its accounts. A hearing is now scheduled for Monday, at which point cash (likely upwards of $60m) must be on-hand. An optimistic new administrator, and desperately credulous suppliers mean nothing if November and December salaries aren’t paid by then and the tax man is left wanting. Muller and his rotating cast of supporting characters are good at buying a week here and a weekend there, but that can’t go on forever. And the real tragedy is that all these delays have only made it more likely that Saab will die on the week before Christmas.

     
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