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KPN weekdraadje van 22 t/m 26 juli 2013

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  1. Parelsnuiver 24 juli 2013 20:34
    quote:

    Eurowin schreef op 24 juli 2013 19:13:

    Jos Versteeg zegt op RTL7 zonder te blikken en te blozen dat hij meent dat KPN een schuldenlast heeft van zo'n 12 miljard Euro.

    Dat dat zo maar kan!! zitten toch meer analisten daar, of zijn ze allemaal gek ... en niemand doet er wat aan, vandaar dat Jos zijn gang kan gaan.. werkelijk niet te geloven...
    Ik moet je wel vertellen dat hij met de deal tussen TNT en UPS wel vaak gelijk kreeg.
  2. [verwijderd] 24 juli 2013 20:41
    quote:

    shane007 schreef op 24 juli 2013 20:31:

    Paar maanden geleden zo stom geweest om te kopen op 4,20. Meegedaan met de emissie en mijn verlies zien oplopen tot 2000 euro. Paar nachten niet geslapen maar volgehouden. Nu verlies nog maar 300. Geduld wordt beloond :-)
    Ook gefeliciteerd! Je geduld is (en wordt waarschijnlijk) beloond.... :-)
  3. [verwijderd] 24 juli 2013 20:47
    quote:

    shane007 schreef op 24 juli 2013 20:31:

    Paar maanden geleden zo stom geweest om te kopen op 4,20. Meegedaan met de emissie en mijn verlies zien oplopen tot 2000 euro. Paar nachten niet geslapen maar volgehouden. Nu verlies nog maar 300. Geduld wordt beloond :-)
    Hier idem, maar dan een veelvoud met 10k stuks. 2,15 sta ik quite.

    Ik hoop dat we de 2,50 ooit gaan halen, heb ik nog een beetje rendement...
  4. ILikeFood 24 juli 2013 20:53
    Slim seeks better price on KPN deal
    July 24, 2013 7:28 pm
    Slim holds out for better price on KPN deal

    By Anousha Sakoui and Daniel Thomas in London and Adam Thomson in Paris

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    Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim is not “in principle” opposed to Telefónica’s bid to buy KPN’s German unit, but instead believes the €8.1bn offer is too low.

    Mr Slim controls a near 30 per cent stake in Dutch group KPN via America Movil (AMX), his telecoms company. Two KPN directors appointed by AMX did not vote in favour of the deal, which is one of Europe’s biggest mergers and acquisitions deal this year and would create a combined business worth €16bn.

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    “I believe AMX is not opposed in principle to the deal,” said a person familiar with the situation. “Price is the issue.”

    That is despite the fact that the €8.1bn cash-and-shares offer for the E-Plus Mobilfunk unit is widely seen by analysts as being high, despite estimates that the combination could result in cost savings of €5bn.

    The Mexican billionaire held talks with Telefónica before theannouncement but wanted a better deal, the people said.

    Shares in both companies rose on the news of the offer.

    “The market perceives this as a great deal for KPN and not such a great deal for Telefónica. It hardens the line for Telefónica,” said a second person. “He should think twice about killing this.”

    The question for Mr Slim’s America Movil is whether to sell at a low point in the cycle for telecoms, or keep holding of his large minority position in KPN and try to build the group up.

    The German deal is hugely significant for the telecoms market as it will act as a test case for whether future consolidation will be allowed in a telecoms markets hard hit by the economic downturn but unable to create greater economies of scale in tightly regulated conditions.

    There has not been a similarly sized deal put to the Brussels antitrust watchdog for fear of harsh reprisals.

    One person close to the deal said KPN was in a weaker position owing to a lack of sufficient 4G spectrum needed for future superfast mobile services in Germany, while Telefónica’s balance sheet was newly strengthened through asset sales. The capital markets were also easier to access now to raise money for the deal, said another person.

    The deal would in effect crystallise some of the losses incurred by America Movil in KPN. It would leave KPN with a much reduced scope, even if it will retain a stake in the German unit, given the fact that its domestic Dutch operations are under heavy pressure from telecoms rivals and technology groups and a Belgium business that it has already tried to sell.

    “It is a good deal today for the KPN shareholders but not from where Slim bought,” the person added.

    The sale would remove the limit on America Movil raising its stake, which has raised questions about whether Mr Slim could exploit the situation to take greater control of the Dutch group. Analysts at Sanford C. Bernstein even speculated about a joint bid with AT&T.

    However, others close to the situation dismissed talk of a counterbid from either.

    Talks between the two companies, which had been on-and-off for a long time, resumed after KPN completed its rights issue in April, with meetings initially held just between Eelco Blok, chief executive of KPN, and José María Alvarez-Pallete López, chief operating officer for Telefónica.

    Code named “Kate” and Teresa”, the two companies decided a deal could now work and brought in their finance directors before recruiting teams to formally structure the deal.

    AMX declined to comment.
  5. Parelsnuiver 24 juli 2013 20:56
    quote:

    ILikeFood schreef op 24 juli 2013 20:53:

    Slim seeks better price on KPN deal
    July 24, 2013 7:28 pm
    Slim holds out for better price on KPN deal

    By Anousha Sakoui and Daniel Thomas in London and Adam Thomson in Paris

    High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights. www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/6d59bdde-f46e...

    Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim is not “in principle” opposed to Telefónica’s bid to buy KPN’s German unit, but instead believes the €8.1bn offer is too low.

    Mr Slim controls a near 30 per cent stake in Dutch group KPN via America Movil (AMX), his telecoms company. Two KPN directors appointed by AMX did not vote in favour of the deal, which is one of Europe’s biggest mergers and acquisitions deal this year and would create a combined business worth €16bn.

    High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights. www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/6d59bdde-f46e...

    “I believe AMX is not opposed in principle to the deal,” said a person familiar with the situation. “Price is the issue.”

    That is despite the fact that the €8.1bn cash-and-shares offer for the E-Plus Mobilfunk unit is widely seen by analysts as being high, despite estimates that the combination could result in cost savings of €5bn.

    The Mexican billionaire held talks with Telefónica before theannouncement but wanted a better deal, the people said.

    Shares in both companies rose on the news of the offer.

    “The market perceives this as a great deal for KPN and not such a great deal for Telefónica. It hardens the line for Telefónica,” said a second person. “He should think twice about killing this.”

    The question for Mr Slim’s America Movil is whether to sell at a low point in the cycle for telecoms, or keep holding of his large minority position in KPN and try to build the group up.

    The German deal is hugely significant for the telecoms market as it will act as a test case for whether future consolidation will be allowed in a telecoms markets hard hit by the economic downturn but unable to create greater economies of scale in tightly regulated conditions.

    There has not been a similarly sized deal put to the Brussels antitrust watchdog for fear of harsh reprisals.

    One person close to the deal said KPN was in a weaker position owing to a lack of sufficient 4G spectrum needed for future superfast mobile services in Germany, while Telefónica’s balance sheet was newly strengthened through asset sales. The capital markets were also easier to access now to raise money for the deal, said another person.

    The deal would in effect crystallise some of the losses incurred by America Movil in KPN. It would leave KPN with a much reduced scope, even if it will retain a stake in the German unit, given the fact that its domestic Dutch operations are under heavy pressure from telecoms rivals and technology groups and a Belgium business that it has already tried to sell.

    “It is a good deal today for the KPN shareholders but not from where Slim bought,” the person added.

    The sale would remove the limit on America Movil raising its stake, which has raised questions about whether Mr Slim could exploit the situation to take greater control of the Dutch group. Analysts at Sanford C. Bernstein even speculated about a joint bid with AT&T.

    However, others close to the situation dismissed talk of a counterbid from either.

    Talks between the two companies, which had been on-and-off for a long time, resumed after KPN completed its rights issue in April, with meetings initially held just between Eelco Blok, chief executive of KPN, and José María Alvarez-Pallete López, chief operating officer for Telefónica.

    Code named “Kate” and Teresa”, the two companies decided a deal could now work and brought in their finance directors before recruiting teams to formally structure the deal.

    AMX declined to comment.
    Als dit zo is zal dit het morgen goed worden ontvangen.
  6. Lauwe 24 juli 2013 21:01
    Sinds ik geen aandelen meer heb....verkocht op 1.829 :( kan ik dit wel posten (al weet ik niet of het ook van toepassing is op KPN):

    www.security.nl/artikel/47134/1/Duits...

    Duitse hacker ontdekt gapend gat in simkaart
    Maandag,10:04 doorRedactie
    Een Duitse beveiligingsonderzoeker heeft ontdekt hoe hij de beveiliging van simkaarten kan kraken zodat hij talloze toestellen met malware kan infecteren. Wereldwijd zijn er meer dan 7 miljard simkaarten actief, die allemaal encryptie gebruiken als er met een telecomaanbieder wordt gecommuniceerd. Karsten Nohl ontdekte dat het mogelijk is de encryptie in bepaalde gevallen te kraken.

    Sommige aanbieders gebruiken verouderde encryptiestandaarden. Daardoor is het mogelijk om de encryptiesleutel te kraken en kan een aanvaller vervolgens een gesigneerd binair sms-bericht naar een telefoon sturen. De telefoon downloadt vervolgens een kwaadaardige Java-applet op de simkaart.

    Dit Java-applet kan sms-berichen versturen, voicemail-nummers wijzigen en de locatie van de gebruiker aan de aanvaller doorgeven. Volgens Nohl, die zijn bevindingen tijdens de Blackhat Conferentie in Las Vegas zal demonstreren, biedt dit genoeg mogelijkheden voor misbruik.

    Foutmelding
    Tegenover Forbes laat de GSM Association weten dat alleen een 'minderheid' van de simkaarten de oudere encryptie gebruiken. Met de oudere encryptie doelt de GSM Association op de Data Encryption Standard (DES) uit de jaren 1970. DES wordt al lang als onveilig beschouwd, maar toch zijn er nog steeds partijen die het gebruiken.

    Het probleem dat Nohl ontdekte wordt echter veroorzaakt door de simkaart. Als een aanvaller binaire code via sms naar een simkaart stuurt die de DES-encryptie gebruikt, wordt er een foutmelding gegeven omdat de binaire code niet juist gesigneerd is.

    De foutmelding die via sms wordt verstuurd bevat de 56-bit privésleutel van de simkaart. Aangezien DES eenvoudig te kraken is, kan een aanvaller vervolgens de sleutel kraken en zo alsnog een binair sms-bericht signeren en versturen. Het advies aan telecomaanbieders is dan ook om snel naar een nieuwere encryptiestandaard over te stappen.
  7. [verwijderd] 24 juli 2013 21:01
    het kan inderdaad ook een bod door En Slim En AT&T worden
    dan is er ook meer geld en waarschijnlijk meer kans op een hoger bod
    het wordt wel steeds logischer en waarschijnlijker dat Slim gaat bieden want hij vind EPlus te laag verkocht dus als hij heel KPN koopt dan is dat probleem voor hem verholpen
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