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Juargo schreef op 24 maart 2021 18:36 :
Tencent -5
Waar kun je dat zien? Of bedoel je Tencent USA?
[quote alias=silverwheaton id=13313142 date=202103241732] [...] Ik verwacht juist geen hoge bergen direct in tegenstelling tot velen hier. Ik ga van 30% groei uit en houdt vast aan de koers op 31 december van EUR 88.36 en tegen jaareinde verwacht ik EUR 114-115. Alles meer is mooi meegenomen! Prima als we wat zakken de komende dagen. Cijfers nu en komend kwartaal en de daarop gebaseerde koersdoelen zullen ook hun werk doen. Evenals wellicht positieve berichten over de relatie met de Chinese overheid. Sentiment zit al een tijdje tegen en zal ook weer een keer draaien. Dat heb ik al zo vaak gezien. Denk dat je eerder veel nog aan mij zult denken de komende maanden :-)
Regelmatig wordt hier geschreven dat de overheid in China beperkende maatregelen oplegt maar China wil ook zelf veel gaan investeren in self-supporting en daarom zullen zij hun eigen bedrijven niet al teveel inperken maar regulering is goed. Dat zie je ook in het westen.
Ik heb ze gistren gelukkig verkocht voor 95, 10
Die baas van Tencent moet gewoon tegen Xi Jinping zeggen: ga eens terug naar je hoek, anders trek ik de stekker uit WeChat. Als dat gebeurt wordt het een grote chaos in China want niemand kan er zonder. Het volk zal zich dan tegen Jinping keren, waardoor hij zal inbinden (of opstappen). Zij blij, wij blij...
Superrubio schreef op 24 maart 2021 18:53 :
[quote alias=silverwheaton id=13313142 date=202103241732]
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Ik verwacht juist geen hoge bergen direct in tegenstelling tot velen hier. Ik ga van 30% groei uit en houdt vast aan de koers op 31 december van EUR 88.36 en tegen jaareinde verwacht ik EUR 114-115. Alles meer is mooi meegenomen!
Prima als we wat zakken de komende dagen. Cijfers nu en komend kwartaal en de daarop gebaseerde koersdoelen zullen ook hun werk doen. Evenals wellicht positieve berichten over de relatie met de Chinese overheid.
Sentiment zit al een tijdje tegen en zal ook weer een keer draaien. Dat heb ik al zo vaak gezien.
Denk dat je eerder veel nog aan mij zult denken de komende maanden :-)
Ik zet er al vast een koop order in op 89 op jouw advies.
Bertussie schreef op 24 maart 2021 20:11 :
Tencent Music -24%
Why Tencent Music Stock Crashed TodayBusiness is booming -- but the stock price already reflects that. Rich Smith (TMFDitty) Mar 24, 2021 at 1:19PM Author Bio What happened Shares of Chinese music streaming service Tencent Music Entertainment Group (NYSE:TME) got caught in a landslide this morning, tumbling as much as 21% in early trading, and still down about 19% as of 12:45 p.m. EDT. And yet, the only news apparent on the wires today is an announcement from HSBC bank that it's raising its price target on Tencent Music stock to $35 -- nearly $10 above where it currently trades. So what gives? IMAGE SOURCE: GETTY IMAGES. So what After all, Tencent Music is now China's top streaming music company, as my colleague Leo Sun pointed out last week. It reported decent numbers in its most recent financial report, meeting analyst expectations for both sales ($1.28 billion) and earnings ($0.12 per share). So why is the stock tumbling? We may find a clue in a report from China Renaissance bank, which yesterday was the sole analyst to downgrade Tencent stock after earnings. As TheFly.com reports, China Renaissance was happy to see "no sign of diminishing returns" as Tencent charges more for music, and the company has "revenue momentum" -- sales were up 14% year over year in the fourth quarter, and online music streaming revenue was up 29%. Nevertheless, the bank believes that the stock's "rich valuation" already factors in this growth. Valuing Tencent at just $29 a share, it sees much less value in the stock than does HSBC. Now what I kind of agree with China Renaissance on this one. With $636 million in trailing earnings, Tencent Music now trades for a steep 68-times-earnings valuation. Granted, free cash flow is probably better than that, Tencent being a high-margin, asset-lite business that generated $748 million in operating cash flow last year, and generally spending less than $20 million a year in capital expenditures. Even if you assume that Tencent's free cash flow number is, say, 15% higher than its reported earnings, though, that still brings the stock's price-to-free cash flow valuation down to only about 58. For a 14% grower -- or even a 29% grower if you focus on the streaming business -- that's simply too much to pay. Should you invest $1,000 in Tencent Music Entertainment Group right now? Before you consider Tencent Music Entertainment Group, you'll want to hear this. Investing legends and Motley Fool Co-founders David and Tom Gardner just revealed what they believe are the 10 best stocks for investors to buy right now... and Tencent Music Entertainment Group wasn't one of them. The online investing service they've run for nearly two decades, Motley Fool Stock Advisor, has beaten the stock market by over 4X.* And right now, they think there are 10 stocks that are better buys.
Bertussie schreef op 24 maart 2021 20:11 :
Tencent Music -24%
Ze zijn dus gewoon weer terug naar de koers van een maand terug
Als ik het allemaal zo lees gaat de achtbaan morgen weer open.
Superrubio schreef op 24 maart 2021 20:30 :
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Ze zijn dus gewoon weer terug naar de koers van een maand terug
Serieuze afstraffing, -27% zelfs
Bertussie schreef op 24 maart 2021 20:52 :
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Serieuze afstraffing, -27% zelfs
Zat kennelijk te veel lucht in
Wat een bullshit zeg. Presenteer even cijfers die de verwachtingen ruimschoots overtreffen, maar wordt weer eens afgeslacht. Prosus op hetzelfde niveau als vorig jaar zomer of april, terwijl Tencent duizelingwekkende groei laat zien keer op keer. Wanneer gaat zich dit nu eens echt vertalen in een mooie koers?
Naspers and Prosus share price react to Tencent In the below article we take a look at Tencent results and how its holding companies Naspers and Prosus have reacted to the earnings release. Source: Bloomberg Indices Shares Tencent Technical analysis Revenue Price Shaun Murison | Senior Market Analyst , Johannesburg | Wednesday 24 March 2021 15:45 Tencent Holdings results Hang Seng listed internet and gaming giant Tencent Holdings Ltd results have shown strong revenue and earnings growth albeit at a slightly slower pace than in the preceding quarter A summary of the Q4 2020 results are as follows: - Revenue increased by 26% year on year (y/y) - Operating margin 28%Diluted earnings per share up 27% y/y - Gaming revenue increased by 29% y/y - Social networking revenue increased by 27% - Online advertising revenues increased by 22% - Fintech revenues increased by 29% Tencent Holdings: technical analysis The share price of Tencent has grinded lower from its recent highs. The grind lower has taken the shape of a falling wedge formation. The pattern suggests a weak move lower after a strong move higher, expectant of renewed gains to follow. The share price also trades around oversold territory. The pattern and oversold signal implies a resumption of short term gains to align with the longer term uptrend. In this scenario, 680 and 725 provide initial upside targets, while a close below trendline support at 580 would suggest the bullish pattern to have failed. Naspers Ltd: technical analysis Similarly to its Tencent counterpart, the share price of Naspers Ltd has also produced a falling wedge formation from recent highs and trades around oversold territory. The pattern and oversold signals imply a resumption of short term gains to align with the longer term uptrend. In this scenario, 3625 and 3834 provide initial upside resistance targets, while a close below trendline support at 3220 would suggest the bullish pattern to have failed. Prosus NV (JSE listing): technical analysis The share price of Prosus NV currently trades near trend line support while in oversold territory. Traders looking for a long positioning into Prosus might prefer to wait for a bullish price reversal to form with a sharp move out of oversold territory. In this scenario 1750 and 1810 would become initial upside resistance targets from the move, while a close below the major low at 1542 would suggest the failure of the move. In SummaryTencent revenue and earnings growth for the fourth quarter robustOperating margins maintainedGrowth was at a slightly slower pace than in the preceding quarterFintech, online advertising, gaming and social networking divisions all continued to produce strong revenue growthA technical analysis view shows Tencent, Naspers and Prosus to look oversold in a longer term uptrend
Tencent after hours nu op 80,98 usd
Audhumbla schreef op 24 maart 2021 19:36 :
Die baas van Tencent moet gewoon tegen Xi Jinping zeggen: ga eens terug naar je hoek, anders trek ik de stekker uit WeChat. Als dat gebeurt wordt het een grote chaos in China want niemand kan er zonder. Het volk zal zich dan tegen Jinping keren, waardoor hij zal inbinden (of opstappen). Zij blij, wij blij...
Die macht is dus precies wat de CCP wil verkleinen.
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