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Kabinet Rutte III, vertrouwen in de toekomst ???

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  1. forum rang 6 Chiddix 17 januari 2018 13:03
    quote:

    DeZwarteRidder schreef op 17 januari 2018 12:57:

    [...]
    De Groningers moeten juist dolblij met de aardbevingen: hierdoor krijgen ze mooie, nieuwe huizen en werkgelegenheid.
    Er zit inderdaad ook nog een positieve kant aan de bevingen. Oude huizen(bouwvallen) worden opgeknapt met geld uit de staatskas enz . De werkgelegenheid in de provincie Groningen houdt niet over maar dat gaat veranderen.
  2. forum rang 10 DeZwarteRidder 17 januari 2018 13:09
    quote:

    Chiddix schreef op 17 januari 2018 13:03:

    [...]Er zit inderdaad ook nog een positieve kant aan de bevingen. Oude huizen(bouwvallen) worden opgeknapt met geld uit de staatskas enz . De werkgelegenheid in de provincie Groningen houdt niet over maar dat gaat veranderen.
    Over ca 100 jaar krijgen Rutte en de NAM een standbeeld in Groningen.
  3. forum rang 6 Chiddix 17 januari 2018 14:45
    quote:

    DeZwarteRidder schreef op 17 januari 2018 13:09:

    [...]
    Over ca 100 jaar krijgen Rutte en de NAM een standbeeld in Groningen.
    Gisterenavond arriveerden twee bussen met Groningers bij de Tweede Kamer om het debat bij te wonen. De stemming was gedrukt. Sommigen zeiden, ik geloof er niet meer in of ik zie het niet meer zitten. Ze moeten even geduld hebben en over een paar maanden lopen ze lachend over straat. Nu had er vandaag weer een aardbeving plaats. 1 punt op de schaal van richter. Mag geen naam hebben. Maar ik zou er niet willen wonen omdat de grond blijft bewegen.
  4. Bezoeky 17 januari 2018 19:38
    Arme mensen daar in Groningen.
    Tientallen jaren door meerdere politieke leiders in de steek gelaten.
    Wat een schande.
    De laatste jaren steken steeds meer doordat er veel garen geweven wordt, maar geen wol uit de verf komt.
    Rutten is meer een leugenaar dan een bestuurder blijkt maar weer.
    Onder Groningen zijn miljarden m3 gas vandaan gehaald, wat is er voor terug gekomen?
    Ik denk dat de kleine steeds frequenter wordende aardbevingen slechts een begin zijn van een ramp die zijn weerga niet kent.
    Doordat ondergronds de holle ruimtes her en der beginnen te trillen komt er ooit een dag dat op meerdere plaatsen in Groningen complete huizen en misschien wel complete woonwijken verdwijnen in zinkgaten.
    Misschien moet men wel overwegen om alle mensen daar te evacueren naar veiliger oorden.
    Rutten, kerel wordt eens wakker, man.
  5. forum rang 6 Chiddix 18 januari 2018 19:16
    quote:

    Bezoeky schreef op 17 januari 2018 19:38:

    Arme mensen daar in Groningen.
    Tientallen jaren door meerdere politieke leiders in de steek gelaten.

    Onder Groningen zijn miljarden m3 gas vandaan gehaald, wat is er voor terug gekomen?
    Ik denk dat de kleine steeds frequenter wordende aardbevingen slechts een begin zijn van een ramp die zijn weerga niet kent.
    Doordat ondergronds de holle ruimtes her en der beginnen te trillen komt er ooit een dag dat op meerdere plaatsen in Groningen complete huizen en misschien wel complete woonwijken verdwijnen in zinkgaten.

    Zo ongeveer voor 300 miljard euro is er naarboven gepompt. De gasbel is een geschenk uit de hemel. Er zit nog voor ongeveer 150 miljard euro in de bodem in Slochteren. Nu blijkt er ook nog een keerzijde aan te zitten. Ik vrees , dat het een gebed zonder eind wordt. Men repareert je huis en bij de volgende aardbeving zitten de bouwlieden bij de buren. Of je ziet in je eigen huis op een andere plaats weer scheuren.
  6. whammy 18 januari 2018 21:47
    quote:

    Chiddix schreef op 18 januari 2018 19:16:

    [...]

    Zo ongeveer voor 300 miljard euro is er naarboven gepompt. De gasbel is een geschenk uit de hemel. Er zit nog voor ongeveer 150 miljard euro in de bodem in Slochteren. Nu blijkt er ook nog een keerzijde aan te zitten. Ik vrees , dat het een gebed zonder eind wordt. Men repareert je huis en bij de volgende aardbeving zitten de bouwlieden bij de buren. Of je ziet in je eigen huis op een andere plaats weer scheuren.
    Wat zou de schade kunnen worden bij het fracken van schaliegas? Dat zal de toekomst uitwijzen. In de US worden er een aantal hemeltje schatrijk van.
  7. [verwijderd] 19 januari 2018 10:23
    www.sott.net/article/292842-Euromaida...

    In late November 2013, the 'Euromaidan' in Kiev began as a popular protest against a generalized state of corruption and cronyism in Ukraine. The spark that ostensibly ignited the protests was the inability of then President Yanukovych to sign an EU Association Agreement that would cut Ukraine's economic and military ties to Russia in favor of a closer relationship with the EU and NATO.

    The EU had made the release of former Ukrainian prime minister and "gas princess" Tymoshenko a precondition for signing the agreement. But the fact that Tymoshenko was/is a convicted embezzler of state funds, combined with the rather severe economic impact the EU Association Agreement would have had on the Ukrainian economy, made it impossible for a consensus in the Ukrainian government to be reached, despite the fact that Yanukovych urged Parliament to put aside their differences and ratify the agreement. In fact, the EU's insistence that Tymoshenko be released appears now to have been designed to ensure the EU-Ukraine Association agreement failed and Yanukovych blamed for that failure and removed from office. Whatever the case, when the agreement was not signed, Ukrainians took to the streets in protest, right on cue.

    The reason I say 'right on cue' is that there is abundant evidence to suggest that public opinion had been primed well in advance of November 21st, 2013 - years in advance, in fact, by Western (particularly American) 'NGOs'.

    The term 'Non Governmental Organisation' is a flagrant misnomer. Most NGOs require funding, which often comes from wealthy patrons with direct ties to government, or from governments themselves. Indeed, several well-known US 'NGO's are equally well-known fronts for CIA and other 'intelligence' agency activity in foreign countries.

    American billionaire 'philanthropist' and business magnate George Soros is the founder and financier of several NGOs. Soros has been 'opening up' societies (particularly in Eastern Europe) for his own benefit and the benefit of Western corporate interests for many years. In 1989, his foundations were instrumental in making sure that former Soviet republics and satellite states chose Western 'liberalism' after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    In May 2014 Soros told CNN:
    "Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia. And the foundation has been functioning ever since and played an important part in events now."
    Soros's aptly named 'Open Society Foundations' work closely with and receive money from the National Endowment for Democracy (NED). NED was set up in the early 1980s in response to the extremely negative press the CIA had been receiving in the late 1970s. The CIA needed a cover, so the NED was created. According to a 1991 interview in the Washington Post with one of the creators of the NED, Allen Weinstein, "a lot of what we (NED) do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA".

    Part of the CIA's mission since its creation has been to make the world free for US corporations. This means infiltrating, destabilizing and 'opening up' sovereign nations. For example, one of the goals of a 1997-98 NED program in the former Yugoslavia was: "To identify barriers to private sector development at the local and federal levels in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and to push for legislative change...[and] to develop strategies for private sector growth." NED and Soros's Open Society are therefore thinly veiled tools of US imperialism, and they have been at work around the world for decades. NED continues to throw $millions at Ukrainian 'CSOs' or Civil Society Organisations. But what exactly is "civil society"?

    'Civil society' (CS) is an over-used term that supposedly describes the "aggregate of non-governmental organizations and institutions that manifest interests and will of citizens." Or more simply, it is "individuals and organizations in a society which are independent of the government". In reality, however, for the most part, 'civil society' is Western government double-speak for 'interfering in the political and social affairs of other nations'. While there are many genuine grassroots organisations around the world, only the ones that align themselves with US government 'strategic interests' get significant funding. In the US, these are precisely the types of groups the US government repeatedly suppresses - those that would 'manifest the interests and will' of its citizens, and not the 1%. In Ukraine, most 'civil society' groups are 100% funded and controlled by the US government via its network of phony 'NGOs'.
  8. [verwijderd] 19 januari 2018 10:23
    USAID - the US government's overt organization tasked with co-opting (and overthrowing) foreign governments - is a big fan of 'civil society', providing $1.8billion in "critical development assistance in support of the Ukrainian people" over the past 20 years. However, in its 2012-2016 'Ukraine Country Development Co-operation Strategy', USAID states that it "provides the largest amount of donor support to the Verkhovna Rada" (Ukraine's Parliament) and is "also the largest donor in providing support to [Ukrainian] political parties." 1 So, far from being "independent of government", USAID's definition of 'civil society' is apparently one government bribing another, and the 'will of the citizens' be damned.

    To differentiate between genuine CS groups and US government cover groups, you need only look at the language they use. While genuine groups will speak and write in plain terms about actual definable issues, US-government-funded groups say things like:
    UNITER will ensure sustainability of advocacy and monitoring through the identification and cultivation of organization(s)/mechanisms that have: 1) the credibility and standing to coordinate, facilitate and convene other organizations around issue-based initiatives, and 2) the capacity to administer advocacy and monitoring sub-grants to organizations that collaborate on issue-based initiatives
    "Administer advocacy [...] for issue-based initiatives"? I'm wondering, is that initiatives that deal with issues, or issues that require initiatives to deal with them? Can you administer advocacy for an initiative, or can you only advocate for an issue that you administer? I currently have an issue that needs some advocacy and would like some sustainability of initiative to administer it. I wonder if I should contact USAID?

    A complex web of phony Ukrainian NGOs

    UNITER stands for 'Ukraine National Initiatives to Enhance Reforms' and is also known as USAID/Ukraine's Strengthening Civil Society in Ukraine (SCSU). It is administered by Pact Inc. Pact Inc. is a nonprofit organization based in Washington D.C. that is directly funded by USAID:
    USAID/Ukraine awarded Pact a 5-year cooperative agreement to implement the project, effective October 1, 2008. The agreement was extended in September 2013 for an additional year. Including modifications and the 1-year extension, the total amount awarded comes to $14.3 million. As of September 30, 2013, $13.7 million had been obligated and $12.7 million had been spent.1
    UNITER also funds the Center UA, which was set up in 2009 by Pierre Omidyar as "a coalition of more than 50 civil society organizations that mobilizes civic participation in Ukraine and serves as the country's primary forum for government transparency and accountability." Omidyar is a French-born Iranian American entrepreneur and philanthropist, and the founder and chairman of the eBay auction site.

    Oleh Rybachuk is named as the founder and chairman of Centre UA. In 2004, Rybachuk headed the staff and political campaign of the US-backed presidential candidate Victor Yushchenko in the 'Orange Revolution'. Speaking at a 2006 NATO forum, he said:
    "The task of political forces [in Ukraine] is to compromise on when Ukraine will sign a NATO Membership Plan [...] Ukraine's leaders must now join their efforts to launch an information campaign promoting the country's Euro-Atlantic integration, so that Ukrainians freely and consciously choose their future."
    Rybachuk went on to serve under Yushchenko and Tymoshenko as deputy prime minister in charge of integrating Ukraine into NATO and the European Union. With the creation of Centre UA in 2009, Rybachuk transformed himself into a "civil society activist" and began working covertly for the US government to prepare the ground for the overthrow of the established order in Ukraine through "civil unrest", which eventually included the violent overthrow of President Yanukovych.

    After the election of President Yanukovych in February 2010, UNITER described how Centre UA was used to put pressure on the Yanukovych government:
    The New Citizen Platform was a key player in ensuring the success of the legislation. Pact, through the USAID-funded Ukraine National Initiatives to Enhance Reforms (UNITER) project assists the NGO Center UA [New Citizen] since 2009. It was UNITER's contribution to create the network of prominent local and national level Ukrainian NGOs, to bring together leaders of public opinion and civil society activist.

    Henceforth, Pact helped Center UA to emerge as the main convener of the need for access to public information for journalist work. This gave important boost to the success of the New Citizen platform. It included the facilitation and creation in summer 2010 of the Stop Censorship movement that unites media professionals in defending their rights for freedom of speech and access to information. The intensive collaboration New Citizen platform and Stop Censorship movement resulted in the reinforced media attention to the legislative struggle.2
    On investigating these 'NGO networks' in Ukraine it quickly becomes clear that when Victoria Nuland said that Washington has spent $5 billion on "democracy promotion" in Ukraine over the past 20 years, she wasn't lying, at least not on the numbers. But that $5billion of US taxpayers' money has not gone towards "democracy promotion" but towards the infiltration and co-opting of Ukraine's political and social life for the purpose of thwarting Russia's natural influence on, and co-operation with, its neighbor. Between 2009 and 2014, through its complex web of fake NGOs, the US government engaged in a concerted effort to radically and definitively change the course of Ukraine's political and social life for the sole purpose of attacking Russia. In hindsight, a violent coup d'etat and the imposition of US-government-selected political leaders was a part of that plan.The farce that was and is USAID funding phony 'NGOs' to work for "access to public information for journalistic work" was fully exposed recently when the Kiev government banned more than 100 Russian media outlets from Ukraine.

    US Snipers on EuroMaidan?

    When he took up the post of US Ambassador to Ukraine on July 30th, 2013, Geoffrey Pyatt inherited this complex and well-established network of US-financed social activists and agitators. One of Pyatt's first tasks was to oversee the funding (about $50,000 in total) of a new television station in Ukraine, Hromadske TV. Unsurprisingly, Hromadske's first broadcast was on Nov. 22nd, 2013, the very first day of the Maidan protests. Indeed, the rallying cry for those protests was given by Mustafa Nayem, a Ukrainian journalist who founded Hromadske TV (with US taxpayers' money). Hromadske provided blanket coverage of the Maidan protest and since then has continued to receive generous funding from the US State Department and EU governments. To get an idea of the editorial line of the US State Dept. Hromadske, last year they hosted a journalist who called for the genocide of 1.5 million residents in the Donbass.
  9. [verwijderd] 19 januari 2018 10:26
    From the beginning of the protests until Yanukovych was forced to flee the country, the Euromaidan was the place to be if you wanted to press the flesh with US politicians. Pyatt and Nuland regularly handed out cookies and 'attaboys' to the protestors and police alike, while the US government's revolutionary envoy John McCain rallied the protestors in December 2013, telling them that "America stands with you" and "Ukraine will make Europe better". As the protests became increasingly violent through January 2014, the Ukrainian Prime Minister resigned on January 28th in a failed attempt to appease the protestors. By February 18th, President Yanukovych was in negotiations to draft a 'peace deal' with three members of the opposition - Yatzenyuk, the fascist Tyahnybok, and Klitschko, along with French, German and Polish foreign ministers. These were the same three people mentioned by Nuland and Pyatt in their infamous leaked phone call where they discussed the future make-up of the post-Yanukovych government.The agreement called for a drastic reduction in Yanukovych's presidential powers, a return to the 2004 constitution, the release of Tymoshenko from prison, early elections for later in 2014, the appointment of Yatzenyuk as prime minister and Klitschko as deputy prime minister, and the dismissal of the current government.

    These measures amounted to a radical change in the power structure in Ukraine and should have meant an end to the protests, since they fulfilled all of the opposition demands. After all, the leaders of the opposition who had signed the agreement were the representatives of the protestors on the streets of Kiev, right? However, as the negotiations were ongoing, someone began a shooting spree in the streets around Kiev square over the three days of February 18th-20th. At least 15 policemen and 80 protestors and civilian bystanders were shot dead by what appears to have been a team of snipers firing from the tops and windows of buildings. The agreement was signed on the 21st, but the large death toll appears to have contributed to the almost immediate scrapping of the agreement, and the announcement by what was left of the Ukrainian parliament that Yanukovych would be impeached.



  10. forum rang 6 Chiddix 19 januari 2018 10:37
    Deze week was er een debat over het aardgas met volle tribune(Groningers) in de Tweede Kamer. Tot verbazing lieten heel veel kamerleden het afweten om aanwezig te zijn tijdens het debat. Een handjevol kamerleden zaten in de bankjes waaronder Hiddema en Baudet(FvD).
    Baudet stelde voor om voor 1 Juli de Groningers schadeloos te stellen. Ook dat Wiebes met twee oliemaatschappijen gaat heronderhandelen over een deal uit het verleden. Die deal hield in, dat de staat het meest opdraait voor de schade.
    Het kabinet is nog bezig om het schadeprotocol rond te krijgen. Daarnaast moeten uiteraard onafhankelijke schade-experts hun rapporten af hebben. Dat zou in een paar maanden rond moeten zijn.
  11. forum rang 6 Chiddix 20 januari 2018 09:01
    In Groningen was er een fakkeloptocht , om de gaswinning te stoppen in Slochteren.
    De bevolking vreest , dat het dweilen met de kraan open wordt als de winning doorgaat. Denk, dat men gelijk krijgt. Of je moet alle huizen aardbevingbestendig maken indien dat mogelijk is. En daar zal een hoog prijskaartje aan hangen.
    Voor de overheid is de kraan dichtdraaien geen optie omdat men contracten heeft voor levering aan Duitsland,Belgie en Frankrijk en de Nederlandse huishoudens, ziekenhuizen enz moet voorzien van aardgas. Het verbruik in Nederland is 40 miljard kubieke meter aardgas op jaarbasis waarvan in 2018 ongeveer 21,5 miljard uit Slochteren komt.
    Huishoudens verbruiken 10 miljard kubieke meter aardgas op jaarbasis.
  12. forum rang 9 josti5 20 januari 2018 09:10
    Aan de contracten met het buitenland zit je vast, tenzij Brussel Nederland een steuntje in de rug geeft door opdracht te geven, die contracten open te breken vanwege aardbevingsgevaar, maar ja: Brussel is nu eenmaal met maar één ding bezig: Economische Groei, dus vanuit die hoek hoeft Nederland geen steun te verwachten.
    Rest, de portemonnee van Henk en Ingrid weer eens open te rukken in de vorm van gasprijs- en/of milieubelasting-verhogingen ten behoeve van 'Groningen'...
  13. forum rang 6 Chiddix 20 januari 2018 09:41
    Vergeleken met 2012 , zal er ongeveer 5 a 6 miljard euro minder in de schatkist vloeien dit jaar uit aardgasbaten(Slochteren). Daarbij komt de schadevergoeding.
    Er moeten 103000 meldingen verwerkt worden. De overheid zal ook met Shell en Exxon Mobil om tafel moeten gaan zitten, om een andere deal(aansprakelijkheid schade).
    Kan niet de bedoeling zijn , dat Henk en Ingrid de knip moeten opentrekken terwijl Shell bulkt van het geld.
  14. forum rang 6 Chiddix 20 januari 2018 10:50
    Correctie: inkomsten aardgas overheid. Ik noemde 5 a 6 miljard maar dat schijnt veel lager te zijn.

    2013- 14,5 miljard euro
    2014-10,4 miljard
    2015- 6,4 miljard
    2016-3,75 miljard
    2017- 2,6 miljard(o.v).

    In 2013 werd 85 miljard kubieke meter aardgas gewonnen waarvan 54 miljard uit de gasbel van Slochteren. In 2016 was de winning(algemeen) - 48,5 miljard kubieke meter aardgas. De opbrengstverschillen tussen het jaar 2013 en het jaar 2016 kan ik niet verklaren. In 2016 zou het ongeveer 7 miljard moeten zijn maar het is 3,75 miljard. Naar de prijs van het aardgas moet ook gekeken worden.
    We zijn op weg van importeur naar exporteur. Dat is onontkoombaar.
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