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haas
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goud =goud
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GS had voor pog als prognose voor 2011 : 1725.
En dat komt als gemiddelde aardig uit
Gung Ho
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Three Cheers for David Cameron!

Thank you to Mr. Tony Barber of the Financial Times for some morning chuckles. In his
article today, “Summit was a disaster for British diplomacy,” he slams UK Prime Minister
David Cameron, blaming him for a “defeat.” And if only those career hacks in the “Foreign
Office,” had handled the delicate negotiations with the EU, all would be good. What a
joke!
Three comments:

1) What are all the “costs” the UK will suffer by not being part of the new and improved
fiscal pact (the euro was going down in flames anyway—at least now there is some
urgency)? Mr. Barber, feel free to define something the UK will lose other than your
access to EU sots at summits and the maniacal meanderings of Merkozy?

2) David Cameron showed that he had some muster given he was outnumbered 26-1;
most other pols would have strapped on their diapers and gone along for the rider
only complaint is that he didn’t call for referendum to pull the UK out of the EU
altogether—I am in agreement with Nigel Farage as usual):
For some years I [Nigel Farage] have felt like the most unpopular Englishman inside
the EU institutions. Now I have competition. David Cameron cut a very lonely
figure in the grim Justus Sipsius building in Brussels. He vetoed a new EU Treaty
that was designed to save the Euro and will try to present himself as a strong
leader in the UK.
His objection to the Treaty had nothing to do with the Eurozone itself or the new,
proposed draconian measures on failing member states. This is a pity as he could
have used the opportunity to explain that democracy, both in the UK and in
Europe, was something that we passionately care about.
He should have warned them that abolishing national democracy and vesting new
powers in EU bureaucrats (under German direction, of course) was disgraceful.
That an apology needs to be issued to Greece and Italy for the removal of their
democratically elected governments and the appointment of puppet premiers. If
peoples are deprived of their rights they will resort to other means, civil disorder
in Greece being an example of this. The EU project is now in danger of creating the
very extreme nationalism that it was supposed to stop.
On the economics Cameron could have taken a lead by saying the Euro project is
beyond rescue. Terrifying the peoples of the EU with talk of dire consequences of
Euro-breakdown is only keeping the weak countries trapped inside an economic
prison and making an even bigger ultimate breakdown more likely.
Better to face up to the truth, and admit that certain countries need to leave the
Euro. It is true that the implications of this are serious for many banks, as they hold
€1.5 trillion of toxic loans between them. Yet it is going to happen anyway. As the
example of Iceland shows, getting the bad news out of the way does, at least, give
some hope for the future.
Sadly Mr. Cameron said none of these things and did not object to the Treaty in
principle. Under massive political and commercial pressure he tried to win some
safeguards for our financial services industry, but President Sarkozy told him
where to go.

3) I thought conventional wisdom said when you are riding on a rat-infested sinking ship
it’s smart to jump off as soon as you can. You would disagree with that Mr. Barber?
This from Mr. Barber’s paper (also this morning) front page—read this with caution, it is
just “shocking” I tell you, “SHOCKING.

Franco-German hopes for a sweeping new treaty to bind more closely the region’s
economies came under strain yesterday as European Union leaders warned of
difficulties pushing a far-reaching pact through their parliaments.
Oh gee, no one saw that one coming—did they Mr. Barber?
Euro under $1.30 and sinking fast; man the lifeboats. Looks like the Finnish and Dutch
contingent already have their boats half-way down the side of the badly listing ship.
Hmm…

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Gung Ho
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German in Vegas

Hans, a middle-aged German tourist on his first visit to Las Vegas, finds the red light district and enters a large brothel. The madam asks him to be seated and sends over a young lady to entertain him.

They sit and talk, frolic a little, giggle a bit, drink a bit, and she sits on his lap. He whispers in her ear and she gasps and runs away! Seeing this, the madam sends over a more experienced lady to entertain the gentleman.

They sit and talk, frolic a little, giggle a bit, drink a bit, and she sits on his lap. He whispers in her ear, and she too screams, "No!" and walks quickly away.

The madam is surprised that this ordinary looking man has asked for something so outrageous that her two girls will have nothing to do with him.

She decides that only her most experienced lady, Lola, will do. Lola has never, never said no, and it's not likely anything would surprise her. So the madam sends her over to Hans. The sit and talk, frolic a little, giggle a bit, drink a bit, and she sits on his lap. He whispers in her ear and she screams, "NO WAY, BUDDY!" and smacks him as hard as she can and leaves.

Madam is by now absolutely intrigued, having seen nothing like this in all her years of operating a brothel. She hasn't done the bedroom work herself for a long time, but she's sure she has said yes to everything a man could possibly ask for. She just has to find out what this man wants that has made her girls so angry. Besides she sees a chance to teach her employees a lesson.

So she goes over to Hans and says that she's the best in the house and is available. She sits and talks with him. They frolic, giggle, drink and then she sits in his lap. Hans leans forwards and whispers in her ear, "Can I pay in Euros?"

-Anonymous


If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
Gung Ho
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Help us Obi-Wan Draghi. You're our only hope!

Luke: How far away is Yoda? Will it take us long to get there?
Yoda: Not far. Yoda not far. Patience. Soon you will be with him.

Luke: There's something not right here... I feel cold. Death.

Yoda: [points to a cave opening beneath a large tree] That place... is strong with the dark side of the Force. A domain of evil it is. In you must go.

Luke: What's in there?

Yoda: Only what you take with you.

Yoda: Your weapons, you will not need them.

Luke: But tell me why I can't...

Yoda: No, no, there is no why. Nothing more will I teach you today. Clear your mind of questions.

- Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back


What are the basic existential limits to monetary policy from a viable central bank?

Basically, it is viable collateral to lend against. And said collateral used in the recent €1 trillion dump by the ECB is not only suspect but becoming increasingly scarce. So far, all that money hasn't been quite the catalyst expected.

I watched the most recent ECB press conference and was struck by ECB Chief Mario Draghi’s exclamation, and I am paraphrasing, “There is little risk to the ECB balance sheet because the loans we make to sovereign countries are secured by collateral obligations.”

Help us Obi-Wan Draghi. You’re our only hope!

What Mr. Draghi didn’t say is that each of the sovereign countries’ central banks makes the decision on defining what constitutes viable collateral from their local banks. Given the liquidity need among many local banks, one might be suspect about the quality of collateral which passes muster.

Some key points from John Plender, in an excellent piece appearing in today’s Financial Times [I have added emphasis and charts to his comments for better assimilation]:

“Now we have mine yields on Spanish sovereign debt back up to unsustainable levels of 6%.”

“Contagion, too, is back. The pain is spreading to Italy, with the stock market yesterday fell 5%, and beyond.

“That underlies a fundamental problem with the ECB's great liquidity injection.”

“It reinforced the incestuous relationship whereby undercapitalized euro zone banks propped up overstretched sovereign borrowers who stood behind the same fragile banks.”

I bolded and put that last sentence in a bright color because that is the payoff phrase of Mr. Plender’s piece ...”It reinforced the incestuous relationship ...”

Gosh! Say it ain’t so, Obi-Wan Draghi!

All that money you set free, which you said was “intended” to be funneled into the real economy, to help real people struggling under the dreaded austerity imposed by the Berlin Death Star, seems to have been captured by the Evil Empire ... just check your deposit account if you don’t believe me, Obi-Wan ...

“In Spain's case foreign investors have been deserting the bond market and domestic banks are finding it harder over time to plug the gap.

“Bank balance sheets across the euro zone have been further weakened because access to ECB liquidity requires banks to pledge assets just as collateral requirements are rising sharply in many markets such as covered bonds and repos.”

In short, it is precisely the secured collateral that our Jedi “worrier” and Death Star conspirators required, regardless of how suspect, that will likely force banks to reduce their loan book, i.e. shed assets (exactly the opposite of the objectives of the LTRO ...)

Why? Because access to unsecured lending (from the private sector) will likely be limited and cost more (as unsecured lenders see all the secured stuff in front of them in case the bank goes belly up; they will either not loan or require a higher interest rate to account for their increased capital risk).

So far banks (who play the role of Evil Empire in our story) are doing just what was expected—trying to save themselves. Thus, the risk of contagion extends well beyond the Eurozone shores to Central and Eastern Europe and even into Asia as the Eurozone banking system provides an inordinate amount of trade finance there.

Thus, ladies and gentlemen of the Rebel Forces (played by real people who are not bankers or connected to Brussels-based apparatchiks in our story), we have a problem:

The Evil Empire isn’t lending to the real economy, and don’t expect your local governments to jump in ...

Fiscal austerity, implemented under threats by the Death Star (of course played by the role of Germany in our story) is settling over our fair land.

And of course, even worse, Obi-Wan Draghi may have reached the limits of his Jedi powers.

Ben “Yoda” Bernanke, are you out there!!!!!?????

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
Gung Ho
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No surprise. But those “hard money” Germans at the Bundesbank can’t like this…


As yield spreads blowout in Spain ...


... speculators will likely attack Italy. And because the Italian bond market is quite large, at around $2.5 trillion, the world’s third-largest behind the US and Japan, a problem in Italy is a knife at the throat of the single-currency regime.

This is from one small excerpt from an interview by The International Economy magazine with Edward Luttwak; he is a highly respected global strategist ...

Smick (editor of IE magazine): So you’re saying that in the end, unavoidably, the creditor class loses, even though today they think they’re going to end up winning?

Luttwak: Yes, absolutely. Given the German refusal to monetize the debt--they have their good reasons, given the composition of their savings--the theoretical alternative is for everything to be rolled back in the now uncompetitive South. If everyone accepts lower wages, salaries, and fees, and every business cuts prices, the benefits of the valuation could be achieved without any of its costs. While theoretically entirely possible, this method has never before been implemented in human history. For decades, the Italians successfully managed their progress from poverty to affluence with successive devaluations of the lira to maintain their competitiveness. They preserved social harmony by allowing wage increases, which they then recouped through devaluations. By contrast, the stability of the euro has only protected Italy's pensioners and savers (unless they made the mistake of investing in state bonds), while penalizing its active population of entrepreneurs, employees, and unemployed would-be employees. Even before the greater stringency of the new Fiscal Union, taxes have now been further increased and social spending has been cut to stay in that same euro system that makes Italy uncompetitive. Perhaps for all his vulgarity—he has lately insulted the venerable president, the flag, Italy's national anthem—Bossi [Umberto Bossi, head of the separatist Northern League who said he wants to leave the euro] is right after all, as the economic and social costs of euro status quo keep rising.

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
Gung Ho
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Fire-eaters are the death knell for Club Med ... unless the scales begin to balance.

This time the fire-eaters are from the North.
What do William Lowndes Yancey, Edmund Ruffin, and Geert Wilders have in common? Even though the first two owned black slaves in the 1800s and the last of that trio has spoken out against the spread of Islam across Europe in recent years, no – they’re not all racists.
They’re all secessionists. Or at least wannabe secessionists.
Yancey and Ruffin were known to be part of the “fire-eaters” who devoted themselves to Southern independence as the Northern states sought to undermine the Southern economy by eradicating slavery.
Wilders, who has vehemently opposed the “immigration of Islam” from Muslim countries into Europe, now looks ready to defend The Netherlands, and the North, on a different front ...
Over the weekend Wilders refused to engage Brussels in budget talks aimed at austerity. Now the EU faces a political commotion from The Netherlands as it tries to bring the region together and mitigate recession. Wilders has said he wants The Netherlands out of the euro and wants to bring back the Dutch guilder. He’s tired of the constant patchwork responses from EU and Eurozone leaders.
Of course, this is just one guy who doesn’t have the clout to really pull strings at any given moment; but he is loud enough and prominent enough to be heard and seen. And we know how much the status quo hates dissent, no matter where you are. 
Yesterday, the ruling Netherlands government fell over disagreement about ongoing Eurozone austerity measures.  Hmmm ...  Timely for Mr. Wilders – he is putting the big question on the table: can the euro survive in its current form?
My view – it doesn’t seem so.
Basic resolutions to the common currency conundrum seem to lie with either the need for 1) centralized fiscal policy in Brussels or 2) forced zone-wide austerity.
Naturally, trying to centralize government has plenty of drawbacks and is mostly an improbable solution. Zone-wide austerity, the chosen path for the time being, brings obvious drawbacks (e.g. immediately stunting economic “growth”) as well.
Monetary policy, referendums, bailouts and summits have been hopeful stop-gaps to buy time and deflect the question that Mr. Wilders has put firmly on the table.
Will the euro be abandoned by any one country, much less by the entire zone?
Doubtful. Politicians are too self-important to effectively relinquish their power by choosing short-term pain (brought on by currency revaluation, etc.) in an effort to realize long-term gain. Short-term gain and long-term pain is the calling card of politicians everywhere.
What matters for investors is mood.

Discussions by officials on the viability of the common currency are not needed to undermine risk appetite and send the markets swooning. While investors have battled through the ebb and flow of PIIGS bailouts, Greek default, rising bond yields, firewalls, LTROs, ECB accommodation, bank insolvency, political rinse cycles, and recession ... they have not yet had to truly face real questions of the euro’s future. Should that simple idea finally permeate investor mindset, markets could crater even if the common currency survives.
But might the fire-eaters be the death knell for Club Med?
Stranger things have happened, or so it’s said. I think we’re inching very close to the drumbeat ... as monetary cohesion within the zone is as unattainable as it’s ever been.
From Ambrose Evans Pritchard:
Such thinking allows Berlin in particular to continue evading the uncomfortable truth that this mess is home-grown, stemming from massive trade and capital imbalances between North and South, compounded by the world’s most leveraged banking system with loan-to-deposit ratios of 1.3 – the same as Japan at top of the Nikkei bubble. (America is a sober 0.7).
There is little point rehearsing the stale debate over whether Club Med states are to blame for living beyond their means, or whether Germany is as much to blame for beggar-thy-neighbour mercantilism, and for flooding the South with excess capital. Both played a role, and much else besides.
What is clear is that these imbalances have built up to such a degree that the Greco-Latin bloc is now trapped in debt-deflation – like victims of the 1930s Gold Standard – with wage costs out of kilter by 20pc or more.
Equally clear is that Germany cannot cling to a structural trade surplus with all southern Europe in perpetuity, at least on this scale. The system has to balance over time. Germany must either give up its intra-EMU surplus, or furnish offsetting funds through capital flows or fiscal transfers, if it wishes to preserve the euro. It is the complete refusal of Germany’s governing class to face up to this dilemma that is now destroying monetary union. Firewalls are a decoy.
Ahh ... thank you, Mr. Pritchard, for that tidy summary of a train wreck in the making…
Remember that firewall idea?  Sometimes people called it a “ringed fence.”  The IMF was quite self-congratulatory over the weekend on the commitments achieved for the fund.  A happy face is always needed when you fall dismally short of your goal.  And don’t worry about those Americans and Canadians complaining about Europe (read wealthy Germany) doing more to shore up their own finances. 
Why is the IMF so concerned?  And why are Americans and Canadians concerned about throwing good money after bad? 
The not-so-dirty little secret is that if Spain spirals out of control—evidenced by rising bond yields—and speculators attack Italian bonds, it is game over!  Spain and Italy combined debt is estimated at about €4 trillion (that includes sovereign and external bank debt).  There is not enough money to play defense.
For now, the EUR/USD cross remains supported; and technically could work higher. I think it is because of Eurozone bank deleveraging, increasing their demand for euro relative to currencies held globally.  Deleveraging will slow and the tug-of-war between money flowing in and out of Europe will soon favor those running for cover. 
Stay tuned!

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
Gung Ho
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Breaking News

Risk assets shunned after European elections
The euro and equity markets fell sharply and bond yields in the eurozone’s periphery nations climbed after France elected a new president and support for pro-Europe parties in Greece collapsed.

Europe’s single currency fell below the $1.30 support level – falling more than 1 per cent as low as $1.2964 – after election results in France and Greece raised concerns about failing public support for the eurozone, its costly bailouts and the austerity measures implemented across the currency bloc.
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If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
Gung Ho
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Euro Zone
"Made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff." – Vince with ShamWow. Credit Suisse Chief GlobalStrategist Jonathan Wilmot highlights that there is a strong view that the future of the euro hinges on the ability of Spain and Italy to restore competitiveness and fiscal credibility, and does not ultimately hinge on the performance or ultimate fate of Greece, Portugal and Ireland. Wilmot says this is a part of the European paradox: "too big to fail, and too big to bail." Given the huge costs to Germany from a euro zone exit or major default in those two countries, Germany is, from a negotiating point of view in a "strangely" weak position according to Wilmot. To counteract that, the German government needs voices within Germany itself who are prepared to contemplate that horrible possibility and say that, if absolutely necessary, Germans should accept that it is better than indefinitely subsidizing or condoning political or economic underperformance by its big euro zone partners. The whole history of Europe is one of crisis-led reform, and so market pressure – up to but no further than the point of disintegration – is seen as essential to ensure that genuine reforms get both passed by the Spanish and Italian parliaments, and implemented in practice. Wilmot says many leading German politicians and policymakers seem to think that labour market reform and deregulation of the professions is even more important than hitting fiscal consolidation targets year by year, at least where weak growth or recession rather than political failure is undermining revenue collection. This also seems to be the view of several leading ECB officials.

If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
ffff
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Gung Ho,

Allemaal geweldige lappen boeiende tekst, maar nu concreet: denk je dat in het huidige sentiment er nog iets van de fysieke kilo goud prijs af kan of denk je dat die prijs wel weer gaat aantrekken. Ik weet best dat het een aarstmoeilijke vraag is, maar op een gegeven moment koop je zo'n plakje goud of koop je hem niet, dan wel verkoop je je plakje(s). Wilt U eens een voorzichtig advies geven, want inzicht heb je genoeg getoond al die jaren hier in de KK.

Peter
Gung Ho
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Hi Peter,

Sorry voor de wat verlate reactie, maar dit is zoals jezelf al stelde niet alleen een bijzonder interessante vraag maar gezien alle ontwikkelingen die elkaar als bliksemflitsen opvolgen niet eenvoudig zomaar te beantwoorden.

Ik zou nu zelf niets verkopen, het synargistisch systeem ( neocon marxisme) is al jaren gesprongen maar dendert net als destijds Hitler in zijn bunker voort op basis van waandenkbeelden, de euro is en blijft een monster van frankenstein en dat zal echt niet binnen korte termijn gaan veranderen.

Mijn moeder zei altijd al dat de banken in de goede tijden je al niet kunnen uitbetalen laat staan als het echt fout loopt.... maar goed we werken nu met staatsbanken die indien van toepassing blijkbaar niet failliet mogen gaan zoals in een vrije markt/kapitalisme nu eenmaal gebruikelijk is. De banken overigens zijn en blijven failliet.

Alleen begrijpen de kameraden nog steeds niet, dat wat ze ook mogen pompen, nu al bijna 2 triljoen in de virtuele economie en nog steeds is het eind niet in zicht en spatten derivaten portos verder uit elkaar. Het waren overigens wel deze portos die afgelopen decennium voor een ongekende M3 zeepbellen in bv vastgoed, beurzen, zorgden, die rijkelijk werd uitgedeeld en door alle kameraden maar als te gretig werden aanvaard.

Maar zoals de voormalige soviet unie feilloos heeft bewezen is ongedekte geld creatie weliswaar tijdelijk maar nimmer een reeele economische oplossing gebleken, vraag het al die ouwe soviet spaarders en pensionados maar eens na ... van het destijds op papier grootste en rijkste spaarland naar praktisch nul, degenen die hun overtollige papiertegoeden op tijd omgezet hadden in goud, platinum en/of olie/gas of kunst behoren nu vaak tot de allerrijksten ter aarde ( ken zelf een een rus die zo alleen al bijna 100 kilo platinum voor werkelijk ook toen al habbekrats gekocht had ipv een spaartegoed)

Handelen in commodities of op beurzen is door het constante centraal geleide ingrijpen en de onzekere situatie in met name nu Europa geen sinecure maar ook in de USA is het in tegenstelling tot wat hier af en toe vaak beweert wordt geenszins rooskleurig.

Er zijn een aantal scenarios denkbaar, die IMHO allemaal voor veel chaos zullen zorgen, zoals de euro zakt politiek vrij snel door zijn hoeven heen door bv bankruns in verschillende landen en daarna zal er dan een periode van nieuwe waarderingen moeten komen voor bv terugkeer van de aloude of eventueel weer nieuwe valutas, dit zal IMHO betekenen dat er wel een plotseling veel vraag zou kunnen komen met name naar de oudste en betrouwbaarste waarde indicator.
Of men gaat heel veel geld drukken als een gek en zo inflatie creeeren ( helicopter Ben), ook dit scenario zou gunstig kunnen uitpakken maar laat zich door de grote centraal geleide overheidscontrole ( die goud haten!!!! goud kun je nu eenmaal niet bijdrukken) moeilijker voorspellen.
Al met al niet alleen spannende maar ook bijzonder vermoeiende tijden om je vermogen zo degelijk mogelijk te beschermen, laat staan veel extra erbij te kunnen pakken.
En dan de laatste mogelijkheid die niet gunstig is IMHO voor goud, en dat is de aloude klassieker als regimes in het nauw en in de problemen zitten dan is zo leert de geschiedenis ons OORLOG een uitgelezen uitweg...

Mijn motto is, de wijsheid van vandaag, is de domheid voor morgen, maar kan overmorgen weer wijsheid betekenen......
Optimale flexibiliteit dus en kijk of los van de beurs je bv niet zelf in de reeele economie kunt investeren in platte organisaties....

Er valt nog heel wat te zeggen of te filosoferen, daarover later wellicht maar vooral heel goed opletten..

Hoop dat je er toch iets aan hebt.....


Succes

mvg

GH





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ffff schreef op 11 mei 2012 om 15:59:

Gung Ho,

Allemaal geweldige lappen boeiende tekst, maar nu concreet: denk je dat in het huidige sentiment er nog iets van de fysieke kilo goud prijs af kan of denk je dat die prijs wel weer gaat aantrekken. Ik weet best dat het een aarstmoeilijke vraag is, maar op een gegeven moment koop je zo'n plakje goud of koop je hem niet, dan wel verkoop je je plakje(s). Wilt U eens een voorzichtig advies geven, want inzicht heb je genoeg getoond al die jaren hier in de KK.

Peter


If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
Gung Ho
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Breaking News

Bernanke says European crisis poses risks
Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke said the European crisis poses “significant risks” to the US economy but offered no direct hint of Fed action, in his testimony to the Joint Economic Committee in Washington.
“The situation in Europe poses significant risks to the US financial system and economy and must be monitored closely,” said Mr Bernanke in prepared testimony to Congress. “As always, the Federal Reserve remains prepared to take action as needed to protect the US financial system and economy in the event that financial stresses escalate.”
The cautious remarks may suggest that Mr Bernanke prefers not to act preemptively against risks from Europe but instead to intervene robustly if the outcome across the Atlantic is bad.

link.ft.com/r/4RNQTT/ZGJ5W2/SPCI1/C4N...




If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?
Gung Ho
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Breaking News

Spain poised to seek bailout
Spain could request bailout aid for its struggling domestic banks as early as Saturday during conference calls between officials from all 17 eurozone finance ministries, making Madrid the fourth member of the single currency bloc to need a rescue from EU authorities since the outbreak of the sovereign debt crisis.
People briefed on planning for the calls, one with senior officials and a second with finance ministers themselves, said leaders want to move pre-emptively in order to assuage growing market uncertainty. The decision was first reported by Reuters.
There were signs on Friday that the Spanish government may back away from a formal request for aid after news of the call was made public. Spanish media quoted deputy budget minister Fernández Currás on Friday as saying the reports were “false”.

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If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

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Gung Ho
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[Breaking News

Cyprus requests eurozone bailout
Cyprus has become the latest eurozone country to seek a bailout amid mounting economic problems and fresh challenges for its banks after a credit rating agency downgrade.
Bowing to eurozone pressure, the government of President Demetris Christofias said it had asked for help, just days before a deadline to recapitalise one of the country’s largest banks.
Cyprus is seeking financial help from the European Financial Stability Facility or its successor, the European Stability Mechanism, a government statement said on Monday. “The purpose of the required assistance is to contain the risks to the Cypriot economy, notably those arising from the negative spillover effects through its financial sector, due to its large exposure in the Greek economy,” the government said.
link.ft.com/r/5F39HH/08F97A/EXNCD/JEB...



If you don't trust GOLD,the only asset with a 6000 year track record, do you trust the logic of taking a $1,000 pine tree, cutting it up, turning it to pulp, putting some ink on it, and then calling it one billion $ dollars?

Gung Ho
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EU Summit
BAH BAM -- RISK ON! BUT, THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS. Expectations have never been so low in a runup
to an EU summit, with investors positioned very bearish. Global equity markets rallied on EU summit announcements. The main highlights include: i) ECB to be involved in supervisory capacity for the euro area banks;

ii) Once this is in place, the European Stability Mechanism (ESM) would be able to lend directly to recapitalize banks without increasing a country's budget deficit, and without preferential seniority status; iii) Spain will be supported directly by the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) until the ESM is available, and then this will be transferred to the ESM with no seniority status, and; iv) EFSF/ESM to be able to intervene in the markets, with conditions based on a memorandum of understanding (MoU). Over the past weeks, there were growing suggestions that Germany would not be willing to move from its hard-line stance (with newspaper reports
of Chancellor Merkel saying there would be no Euro-bonds “as long as I live”, Die Welt, June 27).
However, Germany caved in, but Merkel made a point of saying this action is a special one-time case, and that the exception from seniority of ESM applies only to Spanish aid.
Credit Suisse highlights "the devil is always in the details":

i) It appears that the ESM cannot recapitalize banks until the supervisory body is up and running, with the Commission having to present proposals on how that body is to be set up only by year-end. In addition, it remains unclear who is going to decide how banks are recapitalized, whether the marks are genuine (it is impossible to see the Germans willing to recapitalize banks when assets are marked at the wrong price) and whether all of this is legal (the German constitutional court will be an increasingly important player in this);

ii) there has been the huge under-delivery following initially-promising statements from European policy makers - there have been 16 European Council meetings since the beginning of 2010 – and five grand plans, and;

iii) It continues to be the case that the €500 billion maximum new lending of the EFSF/ESM is small relative to Italian and Spanish funding needs – and that the ESM will only have €80 billion in paid-in capital.

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Europe drawn into global currency wars as slump deepens
The world is edging closer to all out currency conflict as Europe’s politicians join a chorus of policy-makers across the globe pushing for devaluations to fight for market share.

The 'Ecofin' council can fix the euro against other currencies by unanimous vote, and can shape a 'dirty float' by a qualified majority vote Photo: AP
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard7:59PM GMT 16 Jan 2013153 Comments
Jean-Claude Juncker, EuroGroup chief, has signalled that Europe is no longer willing to be the last economic player holding the toxic parcel of an over-valued exchange rate, describing the euro as “dangerously high” after its three-month surge against the dollar, yuan and yen.
The comments follow warnings by two French ministers this month that the strong euro is holding back efforts to pull the France out of deep industrial slump.
Alexei Ulyukayev, deputy head of Russia’s central bank, said the tilt in EMU policy marks a new escalation as every major bloc of the global economy tries to drive down its exchange rate at the same time. “We are now on the threshold of very serious currency wars,” he said.
Korea has asked the G20 take a stand against beggar-thy-neighbour policies in Moscow next month, accusing Japan and the West of covert debasement through loose money.
Japan’s premier Shinzo Abe kicked off the latest skirmishes by threatening to change the Bank of Japan’s statute unless it agrees to launch a monetary blitz and weaken the yen. The euro has rocketed by 20pc against the yen since July. “This will soon start to hurt core Euroland and Germany. The Japanese compete in the same export niche of cars, machine tools and electronics,” said Hans Redeker from Morgan Stanley.

He warned that European banks are still repatriating funds as they cut foreign assets to meet tougher capital rules, pushing the euro higher. Global central banks - especially in Asia - are also stepping back into the EMU debt market after a buyers strike last year.
This is a double-edged effect. While they help cap bond yields, they are also capping their own currencies against the euro. Mr Redeker expects the euro to punch yet higher early this year before buckling and crashing to $1.08 by 2014.
Julian Callow from Barclays said the trade-weighted euro has risen 6pc since the third quarter of 2012. If sustained, this will lop around 0.4pc off eurozone GDP this year at a time when the economy is already contracting. The jobless rate has reached a record 11.8pc, rising to 26.6pc in Spain.
The ECB has so far refused to take action to curb euro strength, standing aloof as Japan, the US, Britain, Switzerland, Norway, New Zealand and Korea itself, among others, try to steer their currencies lower.
Austria’s ECB governor Ewald Nowotny said on Wednesday that euro strength is “not a matter of major concern”. The ECB’s president Mario Draghi brushed aside concerns last week, insisting that “both the real and the effective exchange rate of the euro are at their long-term average”.
The historical rate may mean little after years of intra-EMU divergence. A study by Morgan Stanley found that the “fair” rate for the euro is $1.53 for Germany, $1.23 for Holland, $1.19 for Italy and $1.06 for Greece.
The Lisbon Treaty gives EU finance ministers the crucial say over the exchange rate. The "Ecofin" council can fix the euro against other currencies by unanimous vote, and can shape a "dirty float" by a qualified majority vote. Any such ruling by the council would compel the ECB to shift policy.
Pressure for action is mounting as the slump deepens. A string of countries have downgraded their forecasts over recent days. Portugal’s central bank expects contraction of 1.9pc this year. The Netherlands said Dutch GDP will fall 0.5pc. Germany slashed its forecast from 1pc to 0.4pc.
As often in EU affairs, France is the pivotal state, with the heft to build a coalition. The country has been been losing global export share at an alarming since EMU began, shedding 100,000 industrial jobs a year. This has finally set off a protectionist backlash. Industry minister Arnaud Montebourg said last week that multilateral trade deals are “dead” and slammed predatory practices by China.
Adam Posen, a former UK rate-setter and now at Washinton’s Peterson Insititute, said there could be a chain-reaction this year as the dam breaks and each country resorts to "sauve qui peut" policies.
The underlying problem is a global saving glut as the world saving rate hits a record 24pc of GDP, chiefly driven by Asia and aging effects. Trade experts say the international system cannot return to healthy balance until excess capacity in global industry is whittled away.

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